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Reply To: Myers Briggs Personality Types & Sociopaths

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Lilliput
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Back2BeingMe67, I seriously doubt he was INFJ due to the characteristics of that type. Did he type himself? My ex did so but all the answers were BS – I saw his answers and they were very definitely not who he is! You’ve got to bear in mind they like to see themselves as perfect, wonderful people – and also that they justify their wrongs to themselves. Self insight and ‘honest answers’ aren’t exactly their strong suits! (Understatement!)

If you want to know what he really is, take the test for him yourself – answering in terms of the choices you know he would make through having observed his true character for yourself.

I did this and the result was ESTP – which absolutely describes him, and is absolutely the dodgiest type! The description of an ESTP actually includes lying in order gain, manipulate and ‘image manage’, and they are noted for lying just for the ‘fun’ of it and ‘sense of power’ when others believe the lie (dupers delight); they are easily bored by routine, live in the moment and are thrill seeking, rule breaking, blunt and obnoxious; they are completely out of touch with (or have no) feelings, and no integrity – never give a sucker an even break. One recovery forum for victims polled the MBTI of it’s members – ESTP’s aren’t really showing up on that list.

Plenty of INFJ victims there though – it was the highest type on the list. Other rare ‘I’ types also featured highly. However, you’ve got bear in mind that certain of the ‘I’ types are more likely to be on that poll due to finding answers and solace online (and in books), than finding sufficient consolation with friends and family, who may see the ex for what he is but not understand the ‘why’. Especially when viewed in combination with the ‘Judgement’ aspect, which wants and needs the answers necessary for full closure to happen (needing proper closure is very much a ‘J’ thing!). Friends and family knowing he did you wrong, but not understanding that he’s actually disordered and the dynamics of this – due to how some types are, the solace of those who “see it, but don’t fully get it” is not sufficient – validation/closure comes from understanding the disorder and getting the full answers.

Anyway, you can read about the ESTP type and see for yourself that it describes the psychopathic nature to a tee. This short link doesn’t beat about the bush in terms about how ESTP’s operate:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/estp

Providing the second link just because gives a lot of data, due to the sidebar to the right of that page providing links to eight sections describing the personality type in various life functions (romance, work, parenting, etc).

Looking at it, it also makes sense when you examine the worse potential aspects of each function and how this applies to them in combination:

Extrovert (always on the hunt for attention/supply), Sensing (observant, catering to superficial ‘needs’ and immediate ‘wants’ – always wanting what they want, in the moment), Thinking (because they sure aren’t feeling!), Perceiving (no sense of definiteness, commitment, or closure on their decisions – wanting everything (or everyone!), indecisive, back/forth between their various N supply, push/pull).

ETA: An ESTP initiated a discussion on an INTJ forum – he attempts to justify his lying, manipulative, competitive, selfish, rule breaking ways. The thread makes a very interesting read and demonstrates their ability to ‘justify’ their wrongs as right and claim everyone else has it wrong:

https://intjforum.com/topic/84943-estp-misconceptions-dispelled/

ETA: And another quick thread that really nails and helps us to understand how their liarly liarness is perfectly OK (in their opinion) because ‘the end justifies the means’ is here:

http://www.socionics.com/advan/qa.htm?1213115778

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