Comments on: The sociopath’s irrational optimism http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/ Wake up to the danger of sociopaths Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:28:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: eileen http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/comment-page-10/#comment-58629 eileen Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:07:15 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/#comment-58629 This is another very good article! I couldn't get my head around his blatant lies - even after I found out everything about him and kicked him out he still found the audacity to deny everything. I had been talking for 3 hours with his other girlfriend/wife-to-be, and there he was telling me he had never met her! And as part of the stalking that followed he was acting as if nothing happened, as if he did nothing wrong...which is not completely crazy, it's actually a good strategy - I saw through it of course, but some people might have thought: if he was that guilty surely he wouldn't dare coming here? - Really there should be more awareness about sociopaths. Most people including therapists would try and explain their behaviour as if they were human - human people with flaws, but with motives that somehow we can relate to - but there's no way to understand intellectually what they do and why they do it without prior knowledge of sociopaths. I'm very grateful for this site, it helps so much. This is another very good article! I couldn’t get my head around his blatant lies – even after I found out everything about him and kicked him out he still found the audacity to deny everything. I had been talking for 3 hours with his other girlfriend/wife-to-be, and there he was telling me he had never met her!
And as part of the stalking that followed he was acting as if nothing happened, as if he did nothing wrong…which is not completely crazy, it’s actually a good strategy – I saw through it of course, but some people might have thought: if he was that guilty surely he wouldn’t dare coming here? – Really there should be more awareness about sociopaths. Most people including therapists would try and explain their behaviour as if they were human – human people with flaws, but with motives that somehow we can relate to – but there’s no way to understand intellectually what they do and why they do it without prior knowledge of sociopaths. I’m very grateful for this site, it helps so much.

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]]> By: one_step_at_a_time http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/comment-page-10/#comment-57796 one_step_at_a_time Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:12:48 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/#comment-57796 r babe what complicated lives they lead; it's a wonder their adrenal systems don't just conk out and kill them by the time they are 40. But then again, one would have to register 'stress' for the adrenals to be affected. makes me wonder about the financial situation of my spath. 'he' was going to help me out financially. i hoped for it and consequently didn't give enough time and energy to taking care of my worsening situation. I should have been taking care of things, instead i was taking care of 'him'. one of the places i have 'a need/ unfinished business' (am reading the betrayal bond) r babe

what complicated lives they lead; it’s a wonder their adrenal systems don’t just conk out and kill them by the time they are 40. But then again, one would have to register ’stress’ for the adrenals to be affected.

makes me wonder about the financial situation of my spath.

‘he’ was going to help me out financially. i hoped for it and consequently didn’t give enough time and energy to taking care of my worsening situation. I should have been taking care of things, instead i was taking care of ‘him’.

one of the places i have ‘a need/ unfinished business’ (am reading the betrayal bond)

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]]> By: robxsykobabe http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/comment-page-10/#comment-57790 robxsykobabe Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:24:49 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/#comment-57790 Reading some of the previous posts made me think of when 'princess' and I met how he told me he was in the 'process' of buying a house. That was fine cause, most of us go home at one point or another to save money or because we've fallen on hard times. 6 months into our relationship, he began talking about marriage and moving in with me. It seemed like a fine idea, however, it never manifested itself. He began talking again about buying a house...again, it didnt manifest-HELL, he couldnt even buy himself a dependable car! I noticed if we were out some place talking about homes, he would say "WE'RE in a condo"...and I would think to myself "WHO is in the condo?" About 6 months ago, after being taken to court by his childs mother (who he has NEVER seen, nor does he acknowledge) for more child support, I found out that his credit was so bad that the ONLY way he will EVER get a house is if he lives with someone...and he owes $20,000 in back pay...ahhhhh, its neverending Reading some of the previous posts made me think of when ‘princess’ and I met how he told me he was in the ‘process’ of buying a house. That was fine cause, most of us go home at one point or another to save money or because we’ve fallen on hard times.

6 months into our relationship, he began talking about marriage and moving in with me. It seemed like a fine idea, however, it never manifested itself. He began talking again about buying a house…again, it didnt manifest-HELL, he couldnt even buy himself a dependable car! I noticed if we were out some place talking about homes, he would say “WE’RE in a condo”…and I would think to myself “WHO is in the condo?”

About 6 months ago, after being taken to court by his childs mother (who he has NEVER seen, nor does he acknowledge) for more child support, I found out that his credit was so bad that the ONLY way he will EVER get a house is if he lives with someone…and he owes $20,000 in back pay…ahhhhh, its neverending

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]]> By: robxsykobabe http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/comment-page-10/#comment-57789 robxsykobabe Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:05:26 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/#comment-57789 I am a very moral person and because of this, I often used feeling words like "offended" or "insulted" or anything to express how one may/does feel. What I found was that when my ex was willing to admit he swrewed up, he was somewhat humble in his 'standing up for himself', but when he was trying to deny his responsibility, thats when FEELING words (particularly offended and insulted) began to make an appearance. Again, mimicing me, he threw back at me MY OWN FEELINGS and used them as his own----ahhhhhh ha ha, the stupidity was so evident, but moreseo, the SICKNESS is so evident! I am a very moral person and because of this, I often used feeling words like “offended” or “insulted” or anything to express how one may/does feel.

What I found was that when my ex was willing to admit he swrewed up, he was somewhat humble in his ’standing up for himself’, but when he was trying to deny his responsibility, thats when FEELING words (particularly offended and insulted) began to make an appearance.

Again, mimicing me, he threw back at me MY OWN FEELINGS and used them as his own—-ahhhhhh ha ha, the stupidity was so evident, but moreseo, the SICKNESS is so evident!

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]]> By: one_step_at_a_time http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/comment-page-10/#comment-57774 one_step_at_a_time Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:35:53 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/#comment-57774 i was soooo disappointed that she didn't use the word 'sociopath'. LOL SHE TIRED TO GET ME TO FEEL SORRY FOR HER, 'oh now i am a sociopathic deathblogger'. I said, 'you are not going to pull that shit.' shut her right up. i was soooo disappointed that she didn’t use the word ’sociopath’. LOL

SHE TIRED TO GET ME TO FEEL SORRY FOR HER, ‘oh now i am a sociopathic deathblogger’.

I said, ‘you are not going to pull that shit.’ shut her right up.

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]]> By: robxsykobabe http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/comment-page-10/#comment-57768 robxsykobabe Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:15:37 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/#comment-57768 Ahhhh...what utterly DINGY stupid people we've had contact with! Ahhhh…what utterly DINGY stupid people we’ve had contact with!

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]]> By: one_step_at_a_time http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/comment-page-10/#comment-57765 one_step_at_a_time Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:58:59 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/#comment-57765 r babe - i am not stalking you, honestly ;) ....we seem to be the last 2 up and about tonight. i watched mine completely change a story the last time we talked. 'he' tried 2 or 3 stories and none of them were working on me...don't think she quite expected that. once she got her stride with the story she just started to elaborate and weave and run with it. then sowed up online as one of his 'friends' and used everything i said (I revealed my sleuthing to him - would never do that again) EXCEPT THE WORD SOCIOPATH, to strike out at me. used all the words, 'cept sociopath. SNORT! r babe – i am not stalking you, honestly ;) ….we seem to be the last 2 up and about tonight.

i watched mine completely change a story the last time we talked. ‘he’ tried 2 or 3 stories and none of them were working on me…don’t think she quite expected that. once she got her stride with the story she just started to elaborate and weave and run with it.

then sowed up online as one of his ‘friends’ and used everything i said (I revealed my sleuthing to him – would never do that again) EXCEPT THE WORD SOCIOPATH, to strike out at me. used all the words, ‘cept sociopath. SNORT!

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]]> By: robxsykobabe http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/comment-page-10/#comment-57762 robxsykobabe Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:33:38 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/#comment-57762 AHHHH HA HA!!! This article is absolutely perfect... Let me share my experience with the 'stupid sociopath"... During our last conversation, he began quoting things out of a book I KNOW I had at my house (His Needs, Her Needs). I asked him where he was getting his quotes from because they sounded quite familiar. He made up some bull shit web site (actually he said it was the book-eharmony 29 levels of compatability...but the only way I believe you have access to that is if you are REGISTERED...which means he was also using a dating website while dating me). We hung up and I looked in my spare room for the book. If HE doesnt have it then I SURELY will, right? The book was NOWHERE to be found! Of course I called him and asked him if he had the book, and of course he denied it. He then got VERY angry with me stating he didnt appreciate being accused of stealing and how could he and I have a relationship if I didnt trust him! I blocked ALL forms of contact after that except my phone cause Id have to get a new one all together. After not talking for about 3 days, he left me a message playing the victim talking about how hes going to assume we are not talking now and how he expects an apology for 'hurting his feelings"... Now, this is pure STUPIDITY! AHHHH HA HA!!! This article is absolutely perfect…

Let me share my experience with the ’stupid sociopath”…
During our last conversation, he began quoting things out of a book I KNOW I had at my house (His Needs, Her Needs). I asked him where he was getting his quotes from because they sounded quite familiar. He made up some bull shit web site (actually he said it was the book-eharmony 29 levels of compatability…but the only way I believe you have access to that is if you are REGISTERED…which means he was also using a dating website while dating me).

We hung up and I looked in my spare room for the book. If HE doesnt have it then I SURELY will, right? The book was NOWHERE to be found!

Of course I called him and asked him if he had the book, and of course he denied it. He then got VERY angry with me stating he didnt appreciate being accused of stealing and how could he and I have a relationship if I didnt trust him!

I blocked ALL forms of contact after that except my phone cause Id have to get a new one all together. After not talking for about 3 days, he left me a message playing the victim talking about how hes going to assume we are not talking now and how he expects an apology for ‘hurting his feelings”…

Now, this is pure STUPIDITY!

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]]> By: henry http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/comment-page-10/#comment-56283 henry Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:49:37 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/#comment-56283 thanx for the heads up on the movie wit... Amber I like the steak analogy - but in my case when i look under rocks for love i always find slime.. thanx for the heads up on the movie wit… Amber I like the steak analogy – but in my case when i look under rocks for love i always find slime..

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]]> By: witsend http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/comment-page-10/#comment-56281 witsend Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:00:11 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/11/05/the-sociopath%e2%80%99s-irrational-optimism/#comment-56281 For anyone wanting to go see a good movie, I highly recommend the Blind Side. Very good movie. For anyone wanting to go see a good movie, I highly recommend the Blind Side. Very good movie.

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