Comments on: Mandatory sociopathy/psychopathy education for judges and DAs http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/ Wake up to the danger of sociopaths Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:33:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: bethv http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/comment-page-2/#comment-51596 bethv Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:47:48 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/#comment-51596 Thank You shabbychic.....fortunately we are both strong individuals in our marriage, and even stronger together. As a mother of a well developed 24 yr old daughter, the pain for what my husbands ex does comes to me because I am indeed a mother. Not to lesson what non parent victims of sociopaths go thru. but I believe if I had never experienced motherhood the pain for my stepchildren would not be so great. The courts here in Lake County Indiana could care less about the damage being done to the children. It is all about who will pay the lawyers which I have found to be bottom feeding, moraless, unethical and unscrupolous. No one has ever asked for the truth, and proof of the truth...we have all of the proof , but our lawyer never gives my husband a chance to speak 1 word..ever in court, and of course I am kept out of the court room by his ex and her atty., they know I will speak up! Thank You shabbychic…..fortunately we are both strong individuals in our marriage, and even stronger together. As a mother of a well developed 24 yr old daughter, the pain for what my husbands ex does comes to me because I am indeed a mother. Not to lesson what non parent victims of sociopaths go thru. but I believe if I had never experienced motherhood the pain for my stepchildren would not be so great. The courts here in Lake County Indiana could care less about the damage being done to the children. It is all about who will pay the lawyers which I have found to be bottom feeding, moraless, unethical and unscrupolous. No one has ever asked for the truth, and proof of the truth…we have all of the proof , but our lawyer never gives my husband a chance to speak 1 word..ever in court, and of course I am kept out of the court room by his ex and her atty., they know I will speak up!

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]]> By: shabbychic http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/comment-page-2/#comment-51555 shabbychic Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:29:01 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/#comment-51555 bethv, jeez, this is just a nightmare, I will pray with you that God keeps you both strong and loving each other, I pray for his children to see the truth. There are some archived articles at this website regarding children and the courts, I hope you will read some of the old articles, there are other people here who have been through this also. God Bless. bethv, jeez, this is just a nightmare, I will pray with you that God keeps you both strong and loving each other, I pray for his children to see the truth. There are some archived articles at this website regarding children and the courts, I hope you will read some of the old articles, there are other people here who have been through this also. God Bless.

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]]> By: bethv http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/comment-page-2/#comment-51548 bethv Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:11:26 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/#comment-51548 My husbands ex wife told their children 5 yrs ago on their sons 13th b'day that she was"dying of 4th stage uterine cancer...her brother, sister, neices and nephews were also present...she called them all together to make the"announcement"! (all to get my husband who was divorcing her at the time to move back in to take care of her).She has convinced the state if Indiana that she has GBS(Guillen Bare Syndrome)without any confirimg spinal taps or tests and gets SSI. This is the 2nd time she has been dying of a fatal disease the 1st time it was breast cancer.(any normal God fearing human would be terrified to claim this if it were untrue). I guess the operative word there is "Human"! She has threatened to get me fired from my job, accused my husbands brother many years ago of molesting their son(which was never pursued because she was called on it), has told her children even tho she gets $4400.00 amonth between child support and mortage payments and her $1138.00 a month cobra ins/ we are ordered to pay that they will be 'living on he street.' All of her lies has cost their son (who is now 18)not to see or speak to us for a year now...he "hates his dad, he is a loser"! She sent their 13 yr old daughter to our home on xanax and adavan just so she colud tell the court that the child was suffering from anxeity, even tho she had been coming to our house for 4 yrs. My husband stopped having normal visitation with his daughter with the exception of 2 hrs weekly, I, of course are excluded from seeing my stepdaughter...both kids hate me because of the lies they've been feed 24/7....despite the love and patience I have given them for 5 yrs. She defrauded her church of $24000.00 in 2 yrs after just joining.....Yes, she's a pro. Her and the children told them my husband was a "deadbeat dad, and had abandoned them and they had no income"! The church saw all of our paperwork and court orders and stopped giving her $. She bought a brand new car during their divorce that we got stuck paying for. She has lied from day 1 to all of the friends and family they have known. The therapist (2nd one) we got the court order for their daughter to see is a psycologist, but after the 1st visit defended her and is sure she is "the victim"! She got to him 1st and told him her lies. She walks into court with a cane and crying....all other times she walks w/out any help just like you and I. She has had incurable diseases, miraculous religious convictions ect.... but the worst horror she has done is to alienate they children to the point of where my husband son is estranged and the daughter has anxiety over seeing her dad for 2 hrs. weekly. She manipulates people with guilt and pity. We have spent over $28,000.00 in 6months just defending the kids and ourselves. The court system in Lake County Indiana is so corrupt...it is known to be one of the worse. The judge has never once asked about the well being of the children and knows nothing of her tactics or lies or the alienation. They don't want to hear that stuff.....even tno we pay our atty. $275.00 per hr. I was forced to quit my job 1 yr ago so I could cash in my 401k to hire a new atty.We have to pay her atty fees also because she has vowed to "never work again" and is "disabled"! We have spent over $58,000.00 just staying afloat and now it is all gone. After all of this my husband who adores his children and has been there for them since day1, even will she was having an affair during their marriage, sees his daughter 2 hrs a week and his son not at all. I of course see neither one of the kids for the past year...I am the monster that "caused all of this" ! The only consolation I get from this horrific circumstance is that I am her #1 arch enemy. I catch her every time before she attempts another evil act. I have grown to sense this before hand...I think for self preservation! It is kinda like an animal adaption for survival. We have at least 8 more years of this. I don't see it stopping until the daughter is out of college @22. God give us perserverance...and keep us strong ang loving each other...it takes 2 strong, weel rounded people to survive the wrath of Laura. Were are blessed to be so strong. Beth V My husbands ex wife told their children 5 yrs ago on their sons 13th b’day that she was”dying of 4th stage uterine cancer…her brother, sister, neices and nephews were also present…she called them all together to make the”announcement”! (all to get my husband who was divorcing her at the time to move back in to take care of her).She has convinced the state if Indiana that she has GBS(Guillen Bare Syndrome)without any confirimg spinal taps or tests and gets SSI. This is the 2nd time she has been dying of a fatal disease the 1st time it was breast cancer.(any normal God fearing human would be terrified to claim this if it were untrue). I guess the operative word there is “Human”! She has threatened to get me fired from my job, accused my husbands brother many years ago of molesting their son(which was never pursued because she was called on it), has told her children even tho she gets $4400.00 amonth between child support and mortage payments and her $1138.00 a month cobra ins/ we are ordered to pay that they will be ‘living on he street.’ All of her lies has cost their son (who is now 18)not to see or speak to us for a year now…he “hates his dad, he is a loser”! She sent their 13 yr old daughter to our home on xanax and adavan just so she colud tell the court that the child was suffering from anxeity, even tho she had been coming to our house for 4 yrs. My husband stopped having normal visitation with his daughter with the exception of 2 hrs weekly, I, of course are excluded from seeing my stepdaughter…both kids hate me because of the lies they’ve been feed 24/7….despite the love and patience I have given them for 5 yrs. She defrauded her church of $24000.00 in 2 yrs after just joining…..Yes, she’s a pro. Her and the children told them my husband was a “deadbeat dad, and had abandoned them and they had no income”! The church saw all of our paperwork and court orders and stopped giving her $. She bought a brand new car during their divorce that we got stuck paying for. She has lied from day 1 to all of the friends and family they have known. The therapist (2nd one) we got the court order for their daughter to see is a psycologist, but after the 1st visit defended her and is sure she is “the victim”! She got to him 1st and told him her lies. She walks into court with a cane and crying….all other times she walks w/out any help just like you and I. She has had incurable diseases, miraculous religious convictions ect…. but the worst horror she has done is to alienate they children to the point of where my husband son is estranged and the daughter has anxiety over seeing her dad for 2 hrs. weekly. She manipulates people with guilt and pity. We have spent over $28,000.00 in 6months just defending the kids and ourselves. The court system in Lake County Indiana is so corrupt…it is known to be one of the worse. The judge has never once asked about the well being of the children and knows nothing of her tactics or lies or the alienation. They don’t want to hear that stuff…..even tno we pay our atty. $275.00 per hr. I was forced to quit my job 1 yr ago so I could cash in my 401k to hire a new atty.We have to pay her atty fees also because she has vowed to “never work again” and is “disabled”! We have spent over $58,000.00 just staying afloat and now it is all gone. After all of this my husband who adores his children and has been there for them since day1, even will she was having an affair during their marriage, sees his daughter 2 hrs a week and his son not at all. I of course see neither one of the kids for the past year…I am the monster that “caused all of this” ! The only consolation I get from this horrific circumstance is that I am her #1 arch enemy. I catch her every time before she attempts another evil act. I have grown to sense this before hand…I think for self preservation! It is kinda like an animal adaption for survival. We have at least 8 more years of this. I don’t see it stopping until the daughter is out of college @22. God give us perserverance…and keep us strong ang loving each other…it takes 2 strong, weel rounded people to survive the wrath of Laura. Were are blessed to be so strong. Beth V

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]]> By: PrincessKK http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/comment-page-2/#comment-50007 PrincessKK Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:51:11 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/#comment-50007 Yes, I do think it should be a mandatory for all Judges to receive an officially sanctioned educational program on sociopath. They believe they can scheme the judicial system with their lies, as if they are the victims not the one that causing the problems. I do not know if the sociopath you had dealt with, pretend to be changing his life and going to school and just write things that not normal, as if it is a child coming out of the person. Does sociopath has a child life mind? Yes, I do think it should be a mandatory for all Judges to receive an officially sanctioned educational program on sociopath. They believe they can scheme the judicial system with their lies, as if they are the victims not the one that causing the problems. I do not know if the sociopath you had dealt with, pretend to be changing his life and going to school and just write things that not normal, as if it is a child coming out of the person. Does sociopath has a child life mind?

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]]> By: Isabell http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/comment-page-2/#comment-49431 Isabell Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:20:18 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/#comment-49431 OxDrover, "YOUR DAUGHTER ROCKS! TELL HER I SAID SO! She stood up to these teachers GOOD FOR HER!!!!! Give her a big hug and tell her how strong she is!!!!! " Thank you. OxDrover,

“YOUR DAUGHTER ROCKS! TELL HER I SAID SO! She stood up to these teachers GOOD FOR HER!!!!! Give her a big hug and tell her how strong she is!!!!! ”

Thank you.

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]]> By: Wini http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/comment-page-2/#comment-49388 Wini Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:59:47 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/#comment-49388 Why Church is important to community as a whole. Whether you believe in God or not. Church leaders have the most important duty to all in society everywhere in the world. Church leaders teach all the glorious virtues of our Lord and Savior. To be a faithful believer is to say to all who live among us, I read, comprehend and practice how God wants us to live ... in harmony, with love, compassion and tolerance with all (just to name a few of His virtues). Right thought, right action. But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount." Luke 19:8 If the predators that came into our lives ... agreed to read, comprehend and abide in His blueprint (aka the Bible, the Torah, the Koran etc) maybe, just maybe, people would take seriously their words and their actions and make it a point to live in harmony with all throughout the world! This is why it is important to explain to non-believers in our world, you know not what you do. Read, comprehend and practice living His wisdom and you too can be the best that you were meant to be. Peace. Why Church is important to community as a whole.

Whether you believe in God or not. Church leaders have the most important duty to all in society everywhere in the world. Church leaders teach all the glorious virtues of our Lord and Savior. To be a faithful believer is to say to all who live among us, I read, comprehend and practice how God wants us to live … in harmony, with love, compassion and tolerance with all (just to name a few of His virtues).

Right thought, right action.

But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.”

Luke 19:8

If the predators that came into our lives … agreed to read, comprehend and abide in His blueprint (aka the Bible, the Torah, the Koran etc) maybe, just maybe, people would take seriously their words and their actions and make it a point to live in harmony with all throughout the world!

This is why it is important to explain to non-believers in our world, you know not what you do. Read, comprehend and practice living His wisdom and you too can be the best that you were meant to be.

Peace.

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]]> By: jillsmith http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/comment-page-2/#comment-49380 jillsmith Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:26:10 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/#comment-49380 Kim, Ha. Ha. That joke had me in stitches! Thanks for the great laugh on this Saturday afternoon! I needed it. You're awesome! Have any more jokes? Kim,

Ha. Ha. That joke had me in stitches! Thanks for the great laugh on this Saturday afternoon! I needed it. You’re awesome! Have any more jokes?

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]]> By: jillsmith http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/comment-page-2/#comment-49378 jillsmith Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:24:39 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/#comment-49378 Tood, Good for you for teaching your daughters the realities of labor. I think that all of the sugar-coating many parents do about significant events and/or stresses in life doesn't do any child any favors in the long run. It's best to be prepared for adulthood, IMHO. Tood,

Good for you for teaching your daughters the realities of labor. I think that all of the sugar-coating many parents do about significant events and/or stresses in life doesn’t do any child any favors in the long run. It’s best to be prepared for adulthood, IMHO.

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]]> By: jillsmith http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/comment-page-2/#comment-49376 jillsmith Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:21:47 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/#comment-49376 Tood, Delivery is actually an interesting analogy. I also was not prepared for labor. My mom had told me childbirth was a "piece of cake". Since she died before I gave birth, I never got to hear the truth from anybody. Did you know that labor and delivery can be a huge trigger for someone with PTSD? It is a traumatic event for some women, even without PTSD. Anyway, I thought your analogy was very interesting, especially considering all of the latest research that is being done on the trauma of birth and PTSD. I think the best sex education there could be is watching someone give birth. Ha. That would cure any horny teen. All joking aside, I actually really do consider it all more than worth it, but that is because I wanted my baby so badly and waited and prepared until I was in my thirties to have him. I feel for girls who have their babies in their teens and early twenties. I don't know how people cope with such a significant and sometimes traumatic event so early in life. I wasn't prepared for the pain and reality of childbirth until I was in the middle of it. I'll save you the gory details, but let's just say that I have not received this miracle amnesia about labor and delivery that so many mothers speak of. I remember every single detail and minute of the 36 hours. I'm proud of myself and my body that I was able to do it though. So, in that regard, it was empowering. I did it without any man to hold my hand through it and I'm actually happy about that. I was surrounded by love and very competent women, including the nurse, my midwife and my doula. Thank God for these women! Tood,

Delivery is actually an interesting analogy. I also was not prepared for labor. My mom had told me childbirth was a “piece of cake”. Since she died before I gave birth, I never got to hear the truth from anybody. Did you know that labor and delivery can be a huge trigger for someone with PTSD? It is a traumatic event for some women, even without PTSD. Anyway, I thought your analogy was very interesting, especially considering all of the latest research that is being done on the trauma of birth and PTSD.

I think the best sex education there could be is watching someone give birth. Ha. That would cure any horny teen. All joking aside, I actually really do consider it all more than worth it, but that is because I wanted my baby so badly and waited and prepared until I was in my thirties to have him. I feel for girls who have their babies in their teens and early twenties. I don’t know how people cope with such a significant and sometimes traumatic event so early in life. I wasn’t prepared for the pain and reality of childbirth until I was in the middle of it. I’ll save you the gory details, but let’s just say that I have not received this miracle amnesia about labor and delivery that so many mothers speak of. I remember every single detail and minute of the 36 hours. I’m proud of myself and my body that I was able to do it though. So, in that regard, it was empowering. I did it without any man to hold my hand through it and I’m actually happy about that. I was surrounded by love and very competent women, including the nurse, my midwife and my doula. Thank God for these women!

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]]> By: OxDrover http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/comment-page-2/#comment-49373 OxDrover Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:16:15 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/07/19/mandatory-sociopathypsychopathy-education-for-judges-and-das/#comment-49373 LOL, that's a good one Kim! I find myself with so much spelling trouble now too! I think I would have doen what the blonde did. My best friend (the one who came on a suprise visit this week) is blonde naturally so I know all the blonde jokes and am always sending them to her! She is actually VERY smart and talented, but I get a kick out of sending her blonde jokes. Now she is sending me "old folks" jokes in retaliation! And of course "Maxine" jokes---gosh I love maxine, she is my heroine! I wanna be just like her when I grow up! LOL LOL, that’s a good one Kim! I find myself with so much spelling trouble now too! I think I would have doen what the blonde did.

My best friend (the one who came on a suprise visit this week) is blonde naturally so I know all the blonde jokes and am always sending them to her! She is actually VERY smart and talented, but I get a kick out of sending her blonde jokes.

Now she is sending me “old folks” jokes in retaliation! And of course “Maxine” jokes—gosh I love maxine, she is my heroine! I wanna be just like her when I grow up! LOL

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