Comments on: Gerhartsreiter guilty, sentenced to 5 years but the judge still doesn’t get it http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/ Wake up to the danger of sociopaths Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:33:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: OxDrover http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-39831 OxDrover Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:17:00 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/#comment-39831 ps: Smart, Part of my job at one time was teaching people with spinal cord injuries to enjoy sexual intimacy with their partners even though they were paralyzed from the neck or the waist down. That may seem "uimpossible" but it really isn't. Th eBIGGEST sex organ in the body is the BRAIN. If your current wife is not brain dead or in a coma there is NO reason you and she cannot enjoy a very satisfying sexual relationship. I suggest that you and she see a sex therapist who will be able to, I think, help you acheive that goal. The psychopaths do seem, from what I have read here, to be the "best" sexual intimacy or the worst, depending on the individual, but many times they use this as control. (As yours seems to be doing with threatening to tell your current wife.) They love to get us into a corner and hold something over our heads as black mail to get their way. The only way I can see for you to defuse that is to beat her to the punch and tell your wife yourself. That may NOT be an option though. Even if it IS an option, it is I am sure a DIFFICULT one. The psychpaths make everything difficult! Please stay here and read and learn, you will receive validation and support here---this is a very good place to heal. Good luck! ps: Smart,

Part of my job at one time was teaching people with spinal cord injuries to enjoy sexual intimacy with their partners even though they were paralyzed from the neck or the waist down. That may seem “uimpossible” but it really isn’t. Th eBIGGEST sex organ in the body is the BRAIN. If your current wife is not brain dead or in a coma there is NO reason you and she cannot enjoy a very satisfying sexual relationship. I suggest that you and she see a sex therapist who will be able to, I think, help you acheive that goal.

The psychopaths do seem, from what I have read here, to be the “best” sexual intimacy or the worst, depending on the individual, but many times they use this as control. (As yours seems to be doing with threatening to tell your current wife.) They love to get us into a corner and hold something over our heads as black mail to get their way. The only way I can see for you to defuse that is to beat her to the punch and tell your wife yourself. That may NOT be an option though. Even if it IS an option, it is I am sure a DIFFICULT one. The psychpaths make everything difficult!

Please stay here and read and learn, you will receive validation and support here—this is a very good place to heal. Good luck!

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]]> By: OxDrover http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-39830 OxDrover Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:08:18 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/#comment-39830 Welcome to LF Smart 1967, You have arrived at the right place. I suggest that you go back into the archived articles and read them ALL, there is wonderful information there and KNOWLEDGE=POWER. You can take back your own power that this woman has had over you, take back yourself and heal. I know that whatever they do is aimed at taking away your power over your own life, and giving control to them. It doesn't matter if she hurts your sons in order to make you miserable. This is a healing place,and one where you will be validated. Everyone here has dealt with these monsters, so we "get it" entirely. Again, welcome! Welcome to LF Smart 1967,

You have arrived at the right place. I suggest that you go back into the archived articles and read them ALL, there is wonderful information there and KNOWLEDGE=POWER. You can take back your own power that this woman has had over you, take back yourself and heal.

I know that whatever they do is aimed at taking away your power over your own life, and giving control to them. It doesn’t matter if she hurts your sons in order to make you miserable.

This is a healing place,and one where you will be validated. Everyone here has dealt with these monsters, so we “get it” entirely.

Again, welcome!

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]]> By: smart1967 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-39823 smart1967 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:15:47 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/#comment-39823 <p>For ten years, I was married to a sociopath. We bore two sons. She got custody. She has brainwashed our sons to such a degree they have shut me completely out of their lives. Both are teenagers. Both perceive I don't care.</p> <p>I am confident of why I divorced this woman. Sadly, I am the only who knows why. I tried my best for years to stay close to my sons. Unfortunately, I live 1800 miles away from them. Can't be helped. My job is in Los Angeles and they are in Tennessee. Distance has been our greatest enemy.</p> <p>It took tremendous internal fortitude to walk away from her because I loved her deeply, we had incredible intimacy, and we had two sons. Sex was additive it was so good. She knew what worked and used it to her advantage. And long after we divorced, she proposed having sex with me. I bit at the opportunity because I knew how good it was. And because I am in a sexless marriage, married to someone with health issues, who could resist?</p> <p>I am 53 years old. My ex's proposal was appealing because I haven't had sex in ages and we had been divorced 10 years. As you might imagine, my sociopathic ex used the sex to her advantage. When she doesn't get what she wants from me, she threatens to tell my wife about our very brief experience. You could have predicted this - right??? I was foolish to believe she could be trusted - and I was arroused.</p> <p>I am estranged from my sons because I am far away and my ex is the most convincing con you've ever seen. She can look you dead in the eye and whip up a story out of nowhere. Her M.O. is white collar crime - check fraud, bank fraud, credit fraud, aliases, lies, stealing, and tight control over lives of the people around her. She has convinced my sons I don't love them. She intercepts my emails, phone messages, and mail. And no matter what the court tells her to do, she won't honor the court's orders. Because I live far away, I cannot afford to keep going back to court. </p> For ten years, I was married to a sociopath. We bore two sons. She got custody. She has brainwashed our sons to such a degree they have shut me completely out of their lives. Both are teenagers. Both perceive I don’t care.

I am confident of why I divorced this woman. Sadly, I am the only who knows why. I tried my best for years to stay close to my sons. Unfortunately, I live 1800 miles away from them. Can’t be helped. My job is in Los Angeles and they are in Tennessee. Distance has been our greatest enemy.

It took tremendous internal fortitude to walk away from her because I loved her deeply, we had incredible intimacy, and we had two sons. Sex was additive it was so good. She knew what worked and used it to her advantage. And long after we divorced, she proposed having sex with me. I bit at the opportunity because I knew how good it was. And because I am in a sexless marriage, married to someone with health issues, who could resist?

I am 53 years old. My ex’s proposal was appealing because I haven’t had sex in ages and we had been divorced 10 years. As you might imagine, my sociopathic ex used the sex to her advantage. When she doesn’t get what she wants from me, she threatens to tell my wife about our very brief experience. You could have predicted this – right??? I was foolish to believe she could be trusted – and I was arroused.

I am estranged from my sons because I am far away and my ex is the most convincing con you’ve ever seen. She can look you dead in the eye and whip up a story out of nowhere. Her M.O. is white collar crime – check fraud, bank fraud, credit fraud, aliases, lies, stealing, and tight control over lives of the people around her. She has convinced my sons I don’t love them. She intercepts my emails, phone messages, and mail. And no matter what the court tells her to do, she won’t honor the court’s orders. Because I live far away, I cannot afford to keep going back to court.

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]]> By: pb http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-39106 pb Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:19:34 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/#comment-39106 I, too, have concerns about Reigh. There had to be some sort of parental alienation going on - however subtle, for them to never have discussed mom. Now this little girl, who has been cared for primarily by her father, has to adjust to life without him (apparently he even dressed them in matching outfits). I hope it all goes well for her. I, too, have concerns about Reigh. There had to be some sort of parental alienation going on – however subtle, for them to never have discussed mom.
Now this little girl, who has been cared for primarily by her father, has to adjust to life without him (apparently he even dressed them in matching outfits).
I hope it all goes well for her.

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]]> By: Rune http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-38902 Rune Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:52:47 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/#comment-38902 I wonder if the murderer of the landlords is the same person that OJ Simpson has been looking for all these years. You know, the killer who killed his wife? Back when he was innocent? Such a nice man, you know. Oh, dear. I'm so confused. I wonder if the murderer of the landlords is the same person that OJ Simpson has been looking for all these years. You know, the killer who killed his wife? Back when he was innocent? Such a nice man, you know.

Oh, dear. I’m so confused.

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]]> By: shabbychic2 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-38901 shabbychic2 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:14:55 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/#comment-38901 ANewLily: Hi :) I am aslo so pleased the jury found him guilty and not "insane" which I think is what his defense was, the driver of the limo said he acted like Thurston Howell III (from Gilligan's Island)... what an a**hole!! I have not heard anything about the daughter, the mother seems smart (except for the "blindspot" she mentioned, which I have suffered from myself) so she must have sought out professional help for her daughter, I pray!!! The police from California attended his trial, so you are right, hopefully he will be come more than a "person of interest" in the murder of the landlord's. ANewLily: Hi :) I am aslo so pleased the jury found him guilty and not “insane” which I think is what his defense was, the driver of the limo said he acted like Thurston Howell III (from Gilligan’s Island)… what an a**hole!! I have not heard anything about the daughter, the mother seems smart (except for the “blindspot” she mentioned, which I have suffered from myself) so she must have sought out professional help for her daughter, I pray!!! The police from California attended his trial, so you are right, hopefully he will be come more than a “person of interest” in the murder of the landlord’s.

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]]> By: eyeswideshut http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-38899 eyeswideshut Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:10:30 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/#comment-38899 Welcome New Lily. As Oxy would say, sorry for your experience that brought you to LF. Hope you are well along the healing journey. I am reading "The Happiness Hypothosis" which is quite wonderful. The chapter currently describes the studies that show that those of us who have been through trauma end up happier and more resilient once we have greived and healed. Not to ever wish the trauma on anyone, but sort of like the Neitsche quote " What doesn't kill us makes us stronger" Hope you will share your story with us when you are ready. Hugs, Welcome New Lily. As Oxy would say, sorry for your experience that brought you to LF. Hope you are well along the healing journey.

I am reading “The Happiness Hypothosis” which is quite wonderful. The chapter currently describes the studies that show that those of us who have been through trauma end up happier and more resilient once we have greived and healed. Not to ever wish the trauma on anyone, but sort of like the Neitsche quote ” What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger”

Hope you will share your story with us when you are ready. Hugs,

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]]> By: ANewLily http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-38887 ANewLily Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:34:56 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/#comment-38887 Greetings, LFers! I finally was able to register tonight after about a year and a half of reading articles and posts and have received sustenance. Thank you!! All of you have become very dear to me and I do understand (from experience) the confusion, pain, and RECOVERY challenges. (OxDrover, I suspect you will know who I am!) Re: "Clark Rockefeller" -- I have followed Sandra Boss' story since the news first broke. I rejoiced to learn today that the jury found him guilty on at least two counts and he will serve time (at least 4 or 5 years) away from society! I wonder if he will manipulate an appeal? If so, I hope he doesn't succeed! holywatersalt, I heard that the remains of who they suspect are those of the male landlord's were found in the backyard of their original home recently. I believe the remains are still being examined for complete identification. Since they found the couple's car in Connecticut years ago -- but Mr. "Rockeller" changed his name and evidently couldn't be located -- I am hoping that he will be investigated as a "person of interest" soon. I keep wanting news of whether or not little Reigh has recovered from her trauma of being kidnapped -- and left alone in a strange place. Has anyone heard any news about her? Greetings, LFers! I finally was able to register tonight after about a year and a half of reading articles and posts and have received sustenance. Thank you!!

All of you have become very dear to me and I do understand (from experience) the confusion, pain, and RECOVERY challenges. (OxDrover, I suspect you will know who I am!)

Re: “Clark Rockefeller” — I have followed Sandra Boss’ story since the news first broke. I rejoiced to learn today that the jury found him guilty on at least two counts and he will serve time (at least 4 or 5 years) away from society! I wonder if he will manipulate an appeal? If so, I hope he doesn’t succeed!

holywatersalt, I heard that the remains of who they suspect are those of the male landlord’s were found in the backyard of their original home recently. I believe the remains are still being examined for complete identification. Since they found the couple’s car in Connecticut years ago — but Mr. “Rockeller” changed his name and evidently couldn’t be located — I am hoping that he will be investigated as a “person of interest” soon.

I keep wanting news of whether or not little Reigh has recovered from her trauma of being kidnapped — and left alone in a strange place. Has anyone heard any news about her?

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]]> By: holywatersalt http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-38885 holywatersalt Sat, 13 Jun 2009 07:57:11 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/#comment-38885 Yeah- well they may finally figure out who killed his landlords in California.... Yeah- well they may finally figure out who killed his landlords in California….

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]]> By: OxDrover http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-38873 OxDrover Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:16:38 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/06/12/gerhartsreiter-guilty-sentensed-to-5-years-but-the-judge-still-doesnt-get-it/#comment-38873 I was unable to listen to the sentencing on the raido as I had planned due to the sudden appearance of a severe storm and high winds and rain, so am just now getting back on line (battery power by candle light) but I am sad to see that the judge did not throw the BOOK at this monster. I hope that the authorities will go back and see about the possibility of charging him with murder in the case in California AND/or that some other charges will be brought, and/or the INS will deport this monster and get him out of Sandra Boss's hair and his daughter's as well. I think you are totally right that the judge doesn't get it. I am just glad that he got ANY GUILTY VERDICT. I was unable to listen to the sentencing on the raido as I had planned due to the sudden appearance of a severe storm and high winds and rain, so am just now getting back on line (battery power by candle light) but I am sad to see that the judge did not throw the BOOK at this monster.

I hope that the authorities will go back and see about the possibility of charging him with murder in the case in California AND/or that some other charges will be brought, and/or the INS will deport this monster and get him out of Sandra Boss’s hair and his daughter’s as well.

I think you are totally right that the judge doesn’t get it. I am just glad that he got ANY GUILTY VERDICT.

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