Comments on: After the sociopath: How do we heal? Part 8 – Waking up http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/ Wake up to the danger of sociopaths Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:17:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: lesson learned http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/comment-page-10/#comment-98930 lesson learned Wed, 29 Dec 2010 00:13:31 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/#comment-98930 This article has me feeling so very, very sad........... This article has me feeling so very, very sad………..

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]]> By: one_step_at_a_time http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/comment-page-10/#comment-69743 one_step_at_a_time Fri, 02 Apr 2010 02:06:16 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/#comment-69743 'Who am I now? If I don’t know who he was, and I lost myself in that episode, what gets written on that slate that the grown up erased?' salient question silver. off axis, wobble, reverb - let us find out. ‘Who am I now? If I don’t know who he was, and I lost myself in that episode, what gets written on that slate that the grown up erased?’

salient question silver. off axis, wobble, reverb – let us find out.

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]]> By: silvermoon http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/comment-page-10/#comment-69741 silvermoon Fri, 02 Apr 2010 02:03:42 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/#comment-69741 Seperated? Holy Smokes batman! I can't find mine anywhere! hope its not with all the socks lost in the dryer or worse yet -the last place I lost my car keys! Started working on betrayal bond and it came as a question: Who am I now? If I don't know who he was, and I lost myself in that episode, what gets written on that slate that the grown up erased? In sociopathic relationships, we learn several very tough lessons. But primary among them is this: if our happiness depends on something outside of ourselves, we are living a gambler’s life. Seperated?

Holy Smokes batman! I can’t find mine anywhere! hope its not with all the socks lost in the dryer or worse yet -the last place I lost my car keys!

Started working on betrayal bond and it came as a question: Who am I now? If I don’t know who he was, and I lost myself in that episode, what gets written on that slate that the grown up erased?

In sociopathic relationships, we learn several very tough lessons. But primary among them is this: if our happiness depends on something outside of ourselves, we are living a gambler’s life.

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]]> By: one_step_at_a_time http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/comment-page-10/#comment-69732 one_step_at_a_time Fri, 02 Apr 2010 01:54:49 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/#comment-69732 'In dealing with the residue of a sociopathic relationship, we feel separated from parts of our identity. ' this is a really good article, and much of what has been posted in the last few days seems to be spoken to in it. x one step ‘In dealing with the residue of a sociopathic relationship, we feel separated from parts of our identity. ‘

this is a really good article, and much of what has been posted in the last few days seems to be spoken to in it.

x one step

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]]> By: one_step_at_a_time http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/comment-page-10/#comment-69707 one_step_at_a_time Fri, 02 Apr 2010 01:33:58 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/#comment-69707 ...and here it is again. :) i have been thinking about this today: all the lies she had to tell me, all the things she made up to con me, to fool me, the thousands of tiny details to flesh out the lives of six fake people..... how i let her so close, was 'constant and consistant' with the main character i loved - as he broke down, fell a part. how i sacrificed my work, my time and my energy to support 'him'. i gave. i tried to hold him together. with constant and consistant, laughter and care. i think it may be a form of rape. i keep saying 'i gave to him', 'she stole from me'. but today, in the woods by my house, i let the word rape roll around in my mind. rape - taking to control. taking to feel power over. taking to feel power within - to feed the need. emotional and mental rape. spiritual rape. spiritual rape. yes. think that's right. poor one step. :( i am feeling such compassion for myself. what horrible things have been done to me. hard to fathom. i am going to get back into doing the exercises in the Betrayal Bond. It helps me a lot. the last few of weeks have been a bit intense, but i think i can get back to it now. it was 65 degrees here today - windows are flung wide open in the tox house. awesome. …and here it is again. :)

i have been thinking about this today:

all the lies she had to tell me, all the things she made up to con me, to fool me, the thousands of tiny details to flesh out the lives of six fake people…..

how i let her so close, was ‘constant and consistant’ with the main character i loved – as he broke down, fell a part. how i sacrificed my work, my time and my energy to support ‘him’. i gave. i tried to hold him together. with constant and consistant, laughter and care.

i think it may be a form of rape. i keep saying ‘i gave to him’, ‘she stole from me’. but today, in the woods by my house, i let the word rape roll around in my mind.

rape – taking to control. taking to feel power over. taking to feel power within – to feed the need. emotional and mental rape. spiritual rape. spiritual rape.

yes. think that’s right.

poor one step. :(

i am feeling such compassion for myself. what horrible things have been done to me. hard to fathom.

i am going to get back into doing the exercises in the Betrayal Bond. It helps me a lot. the last few of weeks have been a bit intense, but i think i can get back to it now.

it was 65 degrees here today – windows are flung wide open in the tox house. awesome.

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]]> By: ErinBrock http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/comment-page-10/#comment-67250 ErinBrock Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:51:33 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/#comment-67250 This is a GREAT series of Kathleeens.........deserves to be brought back!!! :) This is a GREAT series of Kathleeens………deserves to be brought back!!!
:)

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]]> By: skylar http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/comment-page-10/#comment-56764 skylar Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:55:37 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/#comment-56764 Nassaugirl, great question! I've thought about it a lot. Just from the S's that I know, I'd have to say that it depends on whether each sociopath knows that he/she is a sociopath. In the case of my S sister and her S-husband, he knows what he is and she doesn't. He is enjoying indoctrinating her into the ways of sociopathy and she has gone from being a selfish, narcissist as a young woman to being a truely evil woman who EMBRACES her evil. She even told me, "Oh, Sky, EVERYONE is evil. I"m evil, you're evil, my husband is evil, your husband is evil. We're all evil - except MOM!" She is, in addition to being an S, a complete moron and her S-husband convinced her to get million dollar life insurance policy on herself before they were even married. Now she denies the policy exists and fumbles for words when confronted about it. So...can you guess who will outlive whom? Her S-husband is a trojan horse for my S-ex, sent to infiltrate my family in order to isolate me from them so he could finish me off when convenient. It didn't work, instead, we all ended up hating the trojan horse S. But, I can tell there is a loyalty between them that was built from their shared "secret". (they still think nobody knows). So those two S's are at a stalemate. Neither one can hurt the other at this point. I would love to throw a bomb somewhere in the middle which would cause them to attack each other. They are both ruthless and have much to lose when the sh*t hits the fan - they would probably try to kill each other. Ah.... I can dream about it.... Nassaugirl,
great question! I’ve thought about it a lot. Just from the S’s that I know, I’d have to say that it depends on whether each sociopath knows that he/she is a sociopath. In the case of my S sister and her S-husband, he knows what he is and she doesn’t. He is enjoying indoctrinating her into the ways of sociopathy and she has gone from being a selfish, narcissist as a young woman to being a truely evil woman who EMBRACES her evil. She even told me, “Oh, Sky, EVERYONE is evil. I”m evil, you’re evil, my husband is evil, your husband is evil. We’re all evil – except MOM!”

She is, in addition to being an S, a complete moron and her S-husband convinced her to get million dollar life insurance policy on herself before they were even married. Now she denies the policy exists and fumbles for words when confronted about it. So…can you guess who will outlive whom?

Her S-husband is a trojan horse for my S-ex, sent to infiltrate my family in order to isolate me from them so he could finish me off when convenient. It didn’t work, instead, we all ended up hating the trojan horse S. But, I can tell there is a loyalty between them that was built from their shared “secret”. (they still think nobody knows). So those two S’s are at a stalemate. Neither one can hurt the other at this point. I would love to throw a bomb somewhere in the middle which would cause them to attack each other. They are both ruthless and have much to lose when the sh*t hits the fan – they would probably try to kill each other.

Ah…. I can dream about it….

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]]> By: nassaugirl http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/comment-page-10/#comment-56761 nassaugirl Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:41:11 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/#comment-56761 Hi, I've been coming to the site off and on for solace. Its been a month now and I'm still trying to heal. I keep going over every detail of our first meeting and our 4 1/2 month relationship and now that I know that he is a sociopath, ALL the lies are being revealed!!! Gawd!! I can't believe I just sat there no knowing....I feel so violated!! I did got some therapy by focusing on writing my booklet which I have now put on the website www.liarcheater.com Although I'm hoping to get over my facination SOON, I am truly FASINATED that any human being who can display such an anti-social lifestyle without a conscience! As far as no conscience and not caring about anything is concerned. I distintly remember telling my ex once, that he DOES care about stuff, and that stuff DOES bother him but ONLY when it affects HIM!!!!! I have a question....what if two sociopaths were to be in a relationship? Would either of them be aware that they were being duped? Would they know that they are totally lying to and manipulating each other? And since they don't give a crap about anything, would it bother eiither of them if they found out that they were being lied to!? Sounds like a perfect pair to me!! Hi, I’ve been coming to the site off and on for solace. Its been a month now and I’m still trying to heal. I keep going over every detail of our first meeting and our 4 1/2 month relationship and now that I know that he is a sociopath, ALL the lies are being revealed!!! Gawd!! I can’t believe I just sat there no knowing….I feel so violated!!

I did got some therapy by focusing on writing my booklet which I have now put on the website http://www.liarcheater.com

Although I’m hoping to get over my facination SOON, I am truly FASINATED that any human being who can display such an anti-social lifestyle without a conscience!

As far as no conscience and not caring about anything is concerned. I distintly remember telling my ex once, that he DOES care about stuff, and that stuff DOES bother him but ONLY when it affects HIM!!!!!

I have a question….what if two sociopaths were to be in a relationship? Would either of them be aware that they were being duped? Would they know that they are totally lying to and manipulating each other? And since they don’t give a crap about anything, would it bother eiither of them if they found out that they were being lied to!? Sounds like a perfect pair to me!!

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]]> By: geminigirl http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/comment-page-10/#comment-56759 geminigirl Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:05:16 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/#comment-56759 Hi, FD. this confirms to me that he is invading yor psychic space even in your sleep. PLEASE ask the angels for protection tonight, and every night.I promise you it WILL work, but a journey of a thousand miles begins with ONE STEP! I cant make you ask for protection, even the Angels' hands are tied if you dont ASK for help! Sky has tried it, I have tried it, it works. DONT put up with this for one more night! Love, Gem.XX Hi, FD. this confirms to me that he is invading yor psychic space even in your sleep. PLEASE ask the angels for protection tonight, and every night.I promise you it WILL work, but a journey of a thousand miles begins with ONE STEP! I cant make you ask for protection, even the Angels’ hands are tied if you dont ASK for help! Sky has tried it, I have tried it, it works.
DONT put up with this for one more night!
Love, Gem.XX

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]]> By: skylar http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/comment-page-10/#comment-56747 skylar Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:20:37 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/05/03/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-8-waking-up/#comment-56747 FD, I prayed to the Archangel Michael and can attest to the protection he offers. My escapes from the traps the xP had set up were miraculous, so I agree with Gem about that. As far as the bad dreams, accuncture might help you if you have it available. It's been almost 6 months and the dreams are calming down. FD,
I prayed to the Archangel Michael and can attest to the protection he offers. My escapes from the traps the xP had set up were miraculous, so I agree with Gem about that.

As far as the bad dreams, accuncture might help you if you have it available. It’s been almost 6 months and the dreams are calming down.

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