Oh, yes…I know the “making plans and then ignoring me so he didn’t have to follow through” all too well. He did it constantly for six months straight. But I wanted to see him so I kept falling for it. He never did the “not showing up” deal with me, but he did tell me that he would do it with other woman who was in the triangulation. Yes, he admitted it! He told me that he would make plans to meet her and then “I just wouldn’t show up.” Wow. Hmmmm, they are all the same.

I have a question about something I did notice and anyone reading this who experienced this or who has any insight, please chime in. I noticed that sometimes he would tell the truth. He would blend it in with all the lies. Was this a way to throw me off track? To make me think that he must be truthful or trustworthy if he told me the truth about certain things?

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Anyway this book sounds intriguing. I do relate to her, thanks for the rec.

I had to laugh inside when he told her his disappearances were part of his “dangerous work”. Of course, if someone told us this straight out we wouldn’t give a second thought to questioning it because of how “important” it sounds. It just wouldn’t even cross our minds to second guess them ( esp if they had drawn a facade of themselves as someone we should trust.. at least in words) But the fact that he, like clockwork, just constructed a bullshit lie in response to her UNCOVERING THE TRUTH … it’s like a reflex.. the target ( in this case, Mary ) rationalizes what the predator has been doing all along, and he simply spews more word salad.. lies on top of lies, lies to explain away hard evidence.. lies without so much a blink of an eye. It is VERY familiar to me in my past experiences.

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It’s all so shocking – I feel that I got off *SO* lightly with my ex – but the tactics used are all so similar. Just my tendency to think ‘he can’t have been up to anything then – he rang me every night’ – seems extra ridiculous. But good lord – Mr Jordan must have been absolutely *exhausted*! How on earth could anyone live like that? I know it’s the ‘endless string of intrigues’ that Secret Monster talks about but…to have tons of people annoyed with you. It’s hard to imagine how that could be fun.

You also think of all the things he could have achieved if he’d put all that energy and ability to manipulative to a more ‘positive’ use. Duping money out of women to impress and dupe other women…then back to them again. This going back and forth and stringing people along is familiar to me now but I don’t think I’ll ever get near to understanding where the fun in it might be.

Anyway – I strongly recommend it as an excellent read and will reinforce how you feel in the same positive way this forum does.

If you’re reading this, Mary, thanks ever so much for sharing your story. (And I hope something wonderful happens to YOU today! )

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There is a specific name for that, but I forget what it is now.

SecretMonster

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If you want to know how someone could actually believe the lies, read the book. Jordan was very, very good. He used classic brainwashing techniques, such as inducing fear. I didn’t want to give too much away–the story is enlightening.

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Was that pilot a sociopath?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1.....B-52_crash
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On March 10, 1994, Holland commanded a single-aircraft training mission to the Yakima Bombing Range to provide an authorized photographer an opportunity to document the aircraft as it dropped training munitions. The minimum aircraft altitude permitted for that area was 500 feet (150 m) AGL.

During the mission, Holland’s aircraft was filmed crossing one ridgeline about 30 feet (10 m) above the ground. Fearing for their safety, the photography crew ceased filming and took cover as Holland’s aircraft again passed low over the ground, this time estimated as clearing the ridgeline by only three feet (1 m).

The co-pilot on Holland’s aircraft testified that he was forced to grab the controls to prevent Holland from flying the aircraft into the ridge while the aircraft’s other two aircrew members repeatedly screamed at Holland, “Climb! Climb!.” Holland responded by laughing and calling one of the crew members “a pussy”.
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there were a bunch of other incidents you can find them in wiki

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I guess it sounds dangerous and scary, can’t easily be disproved, and also allows one to have all kinds of unexplained gaps in one’s story.

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Seriously, do you think that CIA agents once confronted by their misstresses, immediately blow their cover and confess that they are CIA agents?

In that case catching spies would be SO easy for the other side. Just send a girl make her sleep with the guy, then she confronts him “what did you go to embassy for?” “Oh I am sorry honey, actually I am a CIA agent”

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