What is a sociopath feeling?
PDF Lovefraud recently received the following letter from a reader:
“I am trying to understand what the sociopath is feeling. Do they feel love? Do they love? What hurts a sociopath? How can you communicate with a sociopath?”
The problem in dealing with a sociopath, or psychopath, is that they are fundamentally different from the rest of us. The extent of their difference is truly difficult to comprehend—until you’ve had a close encounter with one of them.
Let’s look at these questions individually.
Do they feel love?
The short answer is no. In order to feel love, a person must be able to feel empathy. Sociopaths do not feel empathy for other people.
Those of us who are capable of empathy may feel joy when a friend or relative has a baby, or want to help disaster victims by sending a donation, or cry at a poignant TV commercial. A sociopath does not have an emotional reaction to any of these scenarios. Whether due to genetic make-up, or a traumatic upbringing, or both, when it comes to feeling emotional connections to other people, sociopaths simply don’t get it.
They do, however, learn that by simulating an emotional reaction, or generating an emotional reaction in another person, they can get what they want. So they fake it. They mouth the words, “I love you.” For good measure, they plead, “I don’t want to lose you,” with tears running down their cheeks.
It is all an act.
A sociopath may be telling you that he or she loves you. What the sociopath really means is that he or she wants you like a hot new Lexus. You can do something for the sociopath—such as provide transportation. You can make the sociopath look good—providing a status symbol or the appearance of normalcy. The only reason a sociopath may be upset if you and the kids leave is because he or she doesn’t want to part with possessions.
What does a sociopath feel?
One of the key symptoms of a sociopath, or psychopath, is shallow emotion. In his book Without Conscience, Dr. Robert Hare writes,
“Psychopaths seem to suffer a kind of emotional poverty that limits the range and depth of their feelings. While at time they appear cold and unemotional, they are prone to dramatic, shallow and short-lived displays of feeling.”
They can feel anger and rage, but it typically doesn’t last very long and has no depth. Many people are mystified by the way in which sociopaths can turn emotions on and off. For example, the Lovefraud reader who asked the questions in the beginning of this post also wrote about his ex-wife:
“We met with a court mediator during our divorce proceedings. After accusing me of the most horrible things you can imagine, once away from the mediator, she broke down and cried hysterically asking, “Why are you doing this to me?” Ten minutes later she was bubbly and acting for the judge.”
One expert, Dr. J. Reid Maloy, wrote that psychopaths often feel “contemptuous delight” when they have successfully deceived someone. He also notes that they frequently feel boredom—which then prompts them to aggressively find stimulation, such as someone new to manipulate.
What hurts a sociopath?
Sociopaths do not experience hurt feelings as the rest of us do. They may pretend to be hurt in order to manipulate you, but again, it is an act.
This is an important concept for anyone trying to break free of a sociopath to understand. If you are breaking off a relationship, there is no reason to be nice. You do not have to try to let the sociopath down slowly or gently. Just say, “It’s over,” and leave. Then maintain a strict policy of No Contact.
You cannot hurt a sociopath’s feelings. He or she doesn’t have any.
How can you communicate with a sociopath?
Understand that a sociopath looks at every interaction with another person as an opportunity for manipulation. Therefore, your best policy with a sociopath is No Contact.
If you must communicate with a sociopath, always be on mental red alert. As Dr. Liane Leedom writes, the cardinal sign of sociopathy is lying. Anything said to you may be a lie, or, at best, a twisting of the truth. Furthermore, anything you say to the sociopath, any information you provide, may be used against you.
Here are some tips for communicating with a sociopath:
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1. Provide as little information as possible.
2. Document everything. Get communications in writing. If you are communicating verbally, have a witness.
3. Do not trust. Verify.
4. Be explicit and lay down the law. If the sociopath violates any terms, there must be consequences.
Implications of no empathy and no fear
Sociopaths do not feel empathy. As Dr. Liane Leedom and other experts have written, they also do not feel fear. Empathy and fear are the basic components of remorse and guilt—so sociopaths don’t feel those emotions, either.
What does all this mean? Sociopaths do not really care about people. They do not feel obliged to comply with society’s rules. They cannot be trusted to “do the right thing.” They have no morals.
That—in all its emptiness—is the true nature of a sociopath.
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flowerpower says:
Oxy-
Fantastic explaination…yes forgiveness does equal acceptance. And that we cannot change them, only us.
I think one reason I survived the crazymaking is that I am so stubborn and muleheaded ( my daddy said that) and that same hard head makes me fight with acceptance more than I should.
One-
Boundaries for the spaths, should be called something stronger—moats, fences, walls!!
But boundaries are our protection when we interact with all people. The disordered just REFUSE to see or heed them. We will all interact with the “boundaryblind” at some point… if not daily.
So, we must really enforce those boundaries with consequences when possible…. or move.
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flowerpower says:
One step..
I am sorry for offending you. I did not mean that prayer is the only way to release the offender. Oxy explained it as acceptance and that can come by any means you choose.
I have to give God credit for my strength. But I would never patronize or look down on you or anyone. I have reread my post and tried to find the attitude that upset you. I do understand if forgiveness as a Christian concept was being forced on you…and I didnt mean to do that.
I hope you will accept this explanation and understand the intent behind my expressions of faith..they are not meant to condemn .
With all respect to your feelings, I will continue to speak of what God has done for me. Just as you would speak of a dear friend or a book author…well ,and He wrote a book too that helped me…( My attempt at humor in this).
So, can you accept my references as being tributes to my counsellor or therapist? Instead of a religious statement..because really that as what they are intended to be. I dont want my faith to be a place of anger or frustration for anyone..
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lesson learned says:
One,
I will not stand in ANY kind of judgment of you because you DO NOT believe in God. It’s not COMFORTABLE FOR ME to have that belief, BUT, I know some VERY KIND,HEALTHY people who are NOT believers! I don’t assume that those who are not believers, DON”T have the capacity to heal themselves or that they aren’t innately good. That would be a SERIOUS misconception and dangerously subtly implies that those who are not believers are EVIL or somehow “deserving” of punishment. I know people that believe that too, One, and on every level it is WRONG WRONG WRONG!
Having said that, I do not assume that others here hold that belief either. I’m ONLY speaking for myself here.
I value your opinions, One. It comes from a perspective, at least insofar as spiritual beliefs are concerned, that I respect because you are a HUMAN BEING and MY GOD says NOT to judge.
Right now, my spiritual beliefs are the BARE minimum. I do believe that God is real, it’s a feeling in my HEART! But I can’t say what is in another’s and THEIR beliefs.
Whatever it takes for you to heal, whatever your “higher power” is for you and it could be a NUMBER of things, I will respect it!
I just felt, after seeing your post above, that I needed to share that with you.
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lesson learned says:
Flower,
You’re a kind heart
I think forgiveness is a form of total acceptance of what has happened to us here. I’m not ready to forgive yet. I’m trying NOT to feel guilt because I’m NOT ready to do that, but eventually, I know I will STRIVE to make that happen. It won’t be FOR HIM, it will be FOR ME, so that I can work the final stages of letting go. Right now, I am FAR from doing that.
Being patient with myself and accepting what I”m feeling at any given time is the major challenge right now, but I DO understand the concept of forgiveness and the reasons why it would be so important to achieve that goal.
Your posts have been so enlightening!
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flowerpower says:
thank you lesson..I was not trying to cause guilt ..just offer advice. We are all in different places.
I know how raw the feelings can be and we need to feel lthem… I also know that REPRESSED anger is so destructive.
One good thing about believing in God is that I can vent to him anywhere. And that is healing and we all need to released the anger even while forgiving…
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lesson learned says:
Flower,
I know you meant not harm
Venting to God helps you and it helps me too, but maybe for others who don’t believe, this site is very good for venting and healing too….
I think whatever helps you grow and heal from this experience, no matter how it’s done, can be nothing but positive.
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skylar says:
((One)), Come back!!!!
Most of here are not the kind of Christians that evangilize, but we do like to share when there is something good in our lives, so we share our experience of God.
You have often shared your thoughts on Buddhism, right?
I don’t have much knowledge of Buddhism but I thought that there was a God-figure involved. Anyway, I would hate for you to reject forgiveness completely because it seems to be a Christian construct.
So here is a Buddhist prayer for forgiveness that I found:
A Buddhist Prayer of Forgiveness
“If I have harmed anyone in any way
either knowingly or unknowingly
through my own confusions
I ask their forgiveness.
If anyone has harmed me in any way
either knowingly or unknowingly
through their own confusions
I forgive them.
And if there is a situation
I am not yet ready to forgive
I forgive myself for that.
For all the ways that I harm myself,
negate, doubt, belittle myself,
judge or be unkind to myself
through my own confusions
I forgive myself.”
I think we need forgiveness for the spaths in order to finally heal, but I understand needing time, since I have not gotten there yet with many people myself. (I HATE MY SPATH NEIGHBORS AND THE TROJAN HORSE SOOOOO MUCH- whew that feels better)
This is a great prayer, because we get to forgive ourselves for not being ready to forgive!
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skylar says:
OMG Silver, that song gave me shivers. don’t even know what to think about it.
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Ox Drover says:
One of the nicest things I think about LF is that we have a very diverse community here of people from different ages, areas of the country, sexual orientations, religions and different spiritual aspects and beliefs. I am (or try to be) a Christian, but at the same time, I have learned a great deal from various spiritual writings and philosophies, both ancient and modern.
I think humans have a spiritual aspect, just like we are born with eyes and ears, and other senses, there is a sense of “something more” about us humans than JUST WHAT WE CAN SEE. If that is a belief in a higher power, a god, or whatever the belief system is, I think it is what sets us apart from rocks, water and air or the chemicals that make up our bodies, or the process that makes us “alive” versus “dead” or “inanimate.”
Throughout the ages men have tried to figure out what causes us to be what we are—men have developed belief systems, political systems, laws, regulations and various philosophies to help people live together in some form of order. Sometimes these systems “work” and sometimes they may not “work” as far as some parts of humanity are concerned. For example, “slavery” may be seen as “good” by some people and for those enslaved, not so good. There are places in the world today, and even in parts of our own neighborhoods where some people are seen by others as “property” and not as of equal worth. Some people are viewed by others as “less than human” or of “less worth” than others because of their sex, sexual orientation, sizer, shape, color, IQ, property owned, etc.
Some groups (us) see other groups (them) as not as good as “We” are. As humans, we tend to put other people into catagories in order to sort through them. We look at someone and see a “woman” or a “man” and then we ascribe some sort of Value to them as a woman/human or as a Man/human, when in reality, we should not “judge” people on such a trivial basis.
Not all women are “good” and not all men are “bad” any more than all tall people are “good” and all Short people are “bad.” But at the same time, this “judging” is somewhat of a survival adaptation, and I can tell you if I am walking down a dark street at night and I see some teen-aged kid in a hoodie following me, with his pants hanging down around his arse, and a chain for a belt and a bone through his nose, I am MOST LIKELY GOING TO ASSUME HE IS UP TO NO GOOD. I may be right, and I may be wrong.
If I pass by a man in dirty clothing lying on the street in a large city, I would probably ASSUME he is a homeless man passed out from drugs or drink, and move over to the other side of the side walk. In fact, he may be a man who just got off work from his construction job who passed out because he is in a diabetic coma and that is why he smells like booze. More than one person has died because the cops smelled “booze” on his breath when it was in fact the “fruity wine” smell of a person in a diabetic coma.
Judging others by their appearance, their smell, their sex, color, dress or anything else superficial is a fact of life. We all do it. We get it right sometimes, and we get it wrong sometimes.
Last night I watched a video about “Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jew Boys”—the man is an absolute hoot, and makes a living by humor and by making fun of people’s prejudices about others. One of the funniest things he does I think is a song called “They don’t make Jews like Jesus any more.”
Since in the South there is a phrase about trying to get someone to lower the price on the merchandise they are selling, and it is “trying to Jew someone down.” He talked about going to some place and trying to “Christian someone down on their price.” Knowing the old phrase about “Jewing someone down” and then him REVERSING this makes it funny, actually, otherwise you wouldn’t know what the heck he is talking about.
I think we all to some extent (at least I do) “judge” others or devalue others, even the psychopaths are viewed as “others” compared to “us” (present or former victims). It makes it easier for me to see them as “not worthy as humans” and to devalue their humanity. By accepting their humanity, but by deploring their behavior–by deploring their choices to hurt others–I can still deal with their behavior, see it as evil, as bad, but accept that they are what they are. Even though I become angry at the things they do or things they have done, frustrated at choices they have made and “spout off at the mouth” about that anger, I’ve marveled at how “they” could think this way or act this way, but they are human and they do have CHOICES. I ACCEPT the good things in others, and I must also accept, I think, the choices that I consider evil, mean, bad, terrible. I see the PATTERNS of this kind of behavior in some people, and it is the PATTERNS of behavior, not just a single episode of A lie, or A murder, or AN angry outburst, but like all the things about any person or group of people that shows a similar PATTERN of behavior. So I try not to “judge” people or put them into a “group” or label that group of people as “bad” or “psychopathic” or anything other label, but at the same time, I would be pretty naive if I did not observe those PATTERNS of behavior in individuals that puts me at risk—-and take precautions.
That teen aged kid in the hoodie may not be thinking about mugging me on the dark street, but I will still take precautions and keep my eye on him, even though I recognize his humanity.
I don’t know if any of this makes any sense to anyone except me, but my own spiritual walk has changed due to the interactions I’ve had with my own family members who have made choices to devalue me, even to end my life, but as much as I hate the choices they have made, the things they have done, dehumanizing them and hating them doesn’t do ME any good. Accepting them, accepting the patterns of their behavior and choices, allows me to move past what they are, and what they do.
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lesson learned says:
Ox,
One of the things about LF I really enjoy is the differing perspectives from everyone here that provokes me to thought.
You are correct about judging! I hadn’t thought of it like that.
I also really enjoy your posts because you continue to let us know that we are ALL human beings, and fall short of the glory at times for sure!
Acceptance has been a word I’ve seen on lots of posts today. I’m still trying to “accept” that my spath is a spath, even though I know he’s a spath. Or that my parents were also that or N…I think when an idea in my head has been there a LONG time it’s hard to accept another perspective or version from someone else without EXPERIENCE. Having been with a spath has definitely shattered my belief in the notion that “there is good in everyone”. That’s the hardest thing to accept. I would never want to hurt ANYONE the way a spath does so with such calculating precision. I’ve been thinking alot today about that. Is there benefit to being spath? I can’t see that there IS any benefit, but given the motives of most spaths, perhaps living a life without feeling or emotion,without repentance in some way IS beneficial, ya know what I mean? in other words you’re guaranteed never to be hurt? I’m trying to articulate this the way I’m thinking. I’m not doing a very good job at it lol!
I understand patterns of behavior. I get that loud and clear now.
But I CANNOT wrap my brain around the idea that any human being would WANT to cause intentional harm to another without remorse or guilt. That someone’s pain makes them HIGH…
That is so sick in itself, I don’t even think it requires saying how sick it truly is, how dangerous and destructive that is….
Anyway….for now, for me, it’s hypervigilance time.
Also, another thing I thought about today. That the personality disordered have no empathy. NO FEELING….I’ve worried that perhaps I’m personality disordered, but as I sat today battling with some depression, interracting with my children with laughter and empathy, I realized that I’m NOT without feeling. Simply because I could feel those things or empathize with others,my children and the pain that is on this site too. What I’m concerned about now, is that I feel more shut down. Numb, I guess….for example, a school friend of mine, whom I think is just terrific, offered to have coffee at school this week. initially, it sounded really good, but when I thought about actually going….dunno, just felt like I’d be “fake”….I know it’s good for me to get out….but I’m feeling just………..sad, wounded, angry…all I am are the emotions that have erupted since discovery of what spath truly was/is and how to deal with the reality that there ISN”T always good in the world. I guess after this experience, I feel really, REALLY tired and worn down now. I don’t feel joy or happiness…I just feel numb …..
I don’tknow if that’s normal or not? Or rather common after something like this?
I also have this feeling of still being targeted, but it’s VERY vague. Exspath contacted me yesterday and I’ve felt VERY down since then. Trying to pull myself back up. I DID tell him to NEVER CONTACT ME AGAIN last night. Have heard nothing back, and for that I am grateful…..but the idea that someone wants to purposely aggravate or hurt you because they CAN is just beyond my understanding. Iguess I should be thanking God that is IS beyond my understanding.
But it doesn’t remove the wounds. I’m still licking.
LL
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one_step_at_a_time says:
folks – i am not going to read or respond to most of the responses save flowers. i know you are all good, loving people. Form the bit I read, most of you misunderstood, and it’s too much for me to go through and respond.
i know you meant no harm flower. I am triggered by the subtle manipulation from my mom earlier (she’s ‘supply’ to my n sire and is always trying to manipulate me into being supply too. I told her I don’t trust him and I am protecting myself and it will be that way form now on, and she twisted it into being about my being at fault – submit, comply to the structure, same old story.)
I also stand by my statement of feeling patronized.
And this is my best explanation for why:
Culturally dominant structures are often not recognized as centric and assumptive (normative) by those within the culture (the culture of our families can be considered dominant structures, also). When one is dominant, one does not need to consider ones ‘place’ in the greater scheme of things; it is assumed that one IS the greater scheme of things. Christianity in NA is a dominant centric structure.
I feel that you asserted forgiveness as a normative structure. A Christian referenced forgiveness is considered to be the golden mean for healing in NA, and that leaves little room for the idea that other considerations might be equally useful and valid in freeing us.
I live in this culture and I have a lot of tolerance for the fact that it is Christian centric. I am not often disturbed by it, although I am very aware of it; and of having to work hard to translate from the language of Christianity (including its secular usage) to basic humanitarian beliefs.
Again, this is not about Christianity per se, but about dominance and the expectation of normative compliance.
Some ideas outside of normative structures are good because of their qualities, and some are good for the very reason that they shake up the belief that dominant/ normative structures are all there are.
I was trying to talk about ‘acceptance’ and finding a way to let go of the pain of the spath experience, that doesn’t rely on ‘forgiveness’. I think it is an exciting exploration. It may not bear fruit; I don’t know yet. I felt I was unheard because my idea was outside of the normative, and patronized because I was not trying to ‘find my way’ to the normative.
I know you meant no harm flower. Pain can be caused in and by ignorance. I hope I have been clear, and that it makes some sense to you (and to others.)
I have a really good one about hetero-centricity, if you’d like to read it, also.
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silvermoon says:
Ah no! young blade! That was a trifle short!
You might have said at least a hundred things
By varying the tone … like this, suppose, …
Aggressive: ‘Sir, if I had such a nose
I’d amputate it!’ Friendly: ‘When you sup
It must annoy you, dipping in your cup;
You need a drinking-bowl of special shape!’
Descriptive: ”Tis a rock! … a peak! … a cape!
-A cape, forsooth! ‘Tis a peninsular!’
Curious: ‘How serves that oblong capsular?
For scissor-sheath? Or pot to hold your ink?’
Gracious: ‘You love the little birds, I think?
I see you’ve managed with a fond research
To find their tiny claws a roomy perch!’
Truculent: ‘When you smoke your pipe … suppose
That the tobacco-smoke spouts from your nose-
Do not the neighbors, as the fumes rise higher,
Cry terror-struck: “The chimney is afire ?”
Considerate: ‘Take care, … your head bowed low
By such a weight … lest head o’er heels you go!’
Tender: ‘Pray get a small umbrella made,
Lest its bright color in the sun should fade!’
Pedantic: ‘That beast Aristophanes
Names Hippocamelelephantoles
Must have possessed just such a solid lump
Of flesh and bone, beneath his forehead’s bump!’
Cavalier: ‘The last fashion, friend, that hook?
To hang your hat on? ‘Tis a useful crook!’
Emphatic: ‘No wind, O majestic nose,
Can give THEE cold!-save when the mistral blows!’
Dramatic: ‘When it bleeds, what a Red Sea!’
Admiring: ‘Sign for a perfumery!’
Lyric: ‘Is this a conch? … a Triton you?’
Simple: ‘When is the monument on view?’
Rustic: ‘That thing a nose? Marry-come-up!
‘Tis a dwarf pumpkin, or a prize turnip!’
Military: ‘Point against cavalry!’
Practical: ‘Put it in a lottery!
Assuredly ‘twould be the biggest prize!’
Or … parodying Pyramus’ sighs …
‘Behold the nose that mars the harmony
Of its master’s phiz! blushing its treachery!’
-Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said,
Had you of wit or letters the least jot:
But, O most lamentable man!-of wit
You never had an atom, and of letters
You have three letters only!
And-had you had the necessary wit,
To serve me all the pleasantries I quote
Before this noble audience … e’en so,
You would not have been let to utter one–
Nay, not the half or quarter of such jest!
I take them from myself all in good part,
But not from any other man that breathes.
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skylar says:
oh no, silvermoon has lost her mind! it had to happen sooner or later..
just kidding silver.
I’m not up on my literature, is that shakespeare?
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skylar says:
One,
yeah, I’d actually be interested in that about heterocentricity.
I understand cultural centricity and agree in how offensive it is. Just didn’t really think that my thoughts on God were about that. I detected hypocrisy in most Christians since the nuns in first grade seemed to take joy in punishing us, so it isn’t about religion for me. Its more about my experience with the universe and the truth I’ve found in the 4 gospels.
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one_step_at_a_time says:
skyiiii – i didn’t say that your thoughts on god were about that. but I am asking that people consider that what we know is often assumptive and prescriptively normative; and precludes opening to knowing more.
i am def not talking about hypocrisy; that’s a conversation that i never wade into. (although the blah blah about hypocrisy and religion was a fave of the spaths. she tried sooooo hard to use it to manipulate me. didn’t work. somehow i was inoculated at birth, and being mindf***** by my n ex about religion was like a booster shot!)
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skylar says:
OK, One,
did you read my Buddhist prayer on forgiveness?
I think that you were asking the LF gang to consider if there was another way to heal, which didn’t include forgiveness, for two reasons:
one, you aren’t ready to forgive
two, an intellectual exercise so that we don’t all get stuck thinking in assumptive and prescriptively normative ways.
Perhaps the Buddhist prayer will fit for you?
I think it’s a prayer that asks the universe for help rising above the self. and it asks forgiveness for not being able to – which signifies humility, which is the best defense against spaths. Humility protects by removing the hooks that they use against us – which is our own narcissism.
The hatred and anger we feel for them is a narcissistic injury on our psychs. We feel entitled to justice and fairness, but we should realize that the world isn’t fair, we aren’t entitled. Most of us have it better than many of the world’s sick and poor. Humility lets us feel gratitude for everything we do have and trust that we really don’t know what’s good for us until we can see it in hindsight.
Remember, if nothing else, the spath is good for one thing: as an example of how NOT TO BE. They never forgive, they only want vengeance all the time. Even when we didn’t do anything to them.
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one_step_at_a_time says:
arggggggghhhhh,
IT’S NOT ABOUT NOT ‘BEING READY’…ARGGHHH, THAT VERY STATEMENT IS NORMATIVE AND ASSUMPTIVE! ARGHHHHHHH.
sky – i don’t want to read your buddhist ‘prayer’ (btw, there are many forms of buddhism, and they are not interchanable as they all have a different path and goals); this is not about my needing a ‘buddhist way’ to approach forgiveness.
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one_step_at_a_time says:
grumble grumble….i am going to bed now. peace out all.
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skylar says:
sorry one,
i was trying to understand. If you want, we can forget about it.
Peace.
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silvermoon says:
Skylar,
It is the Nose Soliloquy from Cyrano De Bergerac…
Nah, I was a raving lunatic before all of this
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one_step_at_a_time says:
Hi sky – nah, let’s keep talking about it.
i know YOU know how difficult it can be to present a different point of view, to go into something that you yourself don’t fully understand (maybe all you have is a kernal) and ask others to come a long.
My idea about ‘acceptance’ may not be mechanism that helps me move forward, but i want to look, explore it. I want to know if acceptance can free me. if acceptance can be defined in a radical enough way to do that.
all for now – must work! i lost a lot of work hours yesterday. i was triggered by my mom and being with my ‘friend’ who i recognize, is afraid of emotions, and then by this stuff and worry for EB.
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candy says:
Hi everyone. This is a little story about how difficult it is to not let the spath back into our lives time after time. However, there comes a time when we finally say to ourselves ‘Enough is enough is enough and I will take no more’……….
Once upon a time there was a little pig (Miss Piggy) and a big bad wolf (spath).
Miss Piggy had had enough of the bad treatment from Mr Wolf so she moved out and built herself a house of straw (her defences were not too strong at this point) and sure enough Mr Wolf came along, saw her vulnerability and huffed and puffed and blew down her weak barriers.
Some time passed and Mr Wolf was up to his old tricks so Miss Piggy moved out and this time she was feeling a bit stronger so she built her defences of wood. Sure enough along comes Mr Wolf, he saw her defences were weak so he huffed and he puffed and sure enough Miss Piggy conceded yet again.
Some time passes and Mr Wolf is telling lies, looking at porn, chatting to other women on msn and treating Miss Piggy badly, so she moves out. She builds solid defences (because she’s learned a lot from her friends at LoveFraud) Sure enough along comes Mr Wolf. ‘Urrrrrm’ – (he thinks) she’s making this tough with these solid defences. ‘Miss Piggy I just want to talk to you’, he whines. By now Miss Piggy has deleted him from Facebook , blocked his emails and gone no contact, so he’s getting desperate. ‘If you don’t talk to me I will huff and puff and blow down your defences says the wolf’.
Mr Wolf huffs and puffs, huffs and puffs but there is no way that he’s going to batter down her defences this time. So, purple in the face from all the huffing and puffing, he struts off in the woods.
As he comes to a clearing he comes across Little Red Riding Hood. ‘Hello’ he says ‘I have a Porsche on the far side of the wood, I’m about to inherit pots of money and I’ve just been very badly abused by my last girlfriend’. Miss Red Riding Hood feels very sorry for the wolf, he seems such a genuine guy, maybe she can help him (she thinks) and they both skip off through the trees.
And before you can say Grandma’s House Mr Wolf has forgotten all about poor little Miss Piggy and the grief and torment he’s put her through over the years.
On the way Miss Red Riding Hood says ‘I need to stop of at Grandma’s House, she’s very ill’.
‘Urrrrm’ thinks the wolf ‘I feel I’m onto a winner here!!’
What do you think boys and girls?
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skylar says:
Great story Candy!
But, how does it end? I won’t be able to sleep tonight, until I find out how it ends!!
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skylar says:
One step,
OK, I’ll come along for the ride. When you are ready to post more about it, I will certainly listen. We can’t ever have enough information in this healing journey. I’m wanting to find out how IT ends too!
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candy says:
Skylar – I was trying to respond on another thread but the pute spun me out – Soz
How does it end…………..? Would anyone like to finish the story?
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skylar says:
Ok,
I’ll give it a try.
Red Ridinghood was a beautiful young woman, but granny was old and wealthy. So Wolf put the moves on Granny, slandered Red Ridinghood to Granny, (called her a slut, accused her of being a drunk etc…) then convinced Granny that it would be best if she changed her will and left her fortune to him. Before the ink was even dry, he mutilated Granny to death. But Red was no dummy, she had changed her clothes and put on a gray dress, so she could blend in behind a potted plant. She was watching the whole thing go down and wiped the ink from the new will (see, it wasn’t dry yet, – spaths always overestimate themselves and jump the gun when they get excited). The old will was safely in her pocket…She snuck away and came back with an army of lawyers, in gray suits.
How’s that?
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candy says:
Skylar…brilliant. I love the grey dress/potted plant bit!
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