Comments on: Gaslight: a glimpse of psychopathic manipulations http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/ Wake up to the danger of sociopaths Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:17:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ox Drover http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/comment-page-1/#comment-134546 Ox Drover Thu, 25 Aug 2011 23:44:13 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/#comment-134546 Yea, the gaslighting is enough to drive you crazy and make you believe YOU are delusional, have mental problems, are forgetful etc. I sit here shaking my head...wondering why I ever fell for it all. But we are NOT "stoopid" we ARE gullible sometimes, but we are learning and we "ain't as gullible as we ust'a be! TOWANDA for us! Yea, the gaslighting is enough to drive you crazy and make you believe YOU are delusional, have mental problems, are forgetful etc. I sit here shaking my head…wondering why I ever fell for it all. But we are NOT “stoopid” we ARE gullible sometimes, but we are learning and we “ain’t as gullible as we ust’a be! TOWANDA for us!

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]]> By: dancingnancies http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/comment-page-1/#comment-134538 dancingnancies Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:55:01 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/#comment-134538 panther, i hear ya. It's quite a lonely road we walk. Thank God for LF and everyone here. You all are a godsend. panther, i hear ya. It’s quite a lonely road we walk. Thank God for LF and everyone here. You all are a godsend.

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]]> By: panther http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/comment-page-1/#comment-134523 panther Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:39:16 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/#comment-134523 So far, I have found that the ONLY people who understand what I am talking about in the slightest are other former victims. That movies sounds interesting, although I'm not sure if I'm strong enough to see something like that just yet. It would be like watching a documentary on my past 1.5 years from the sounds of it. But I definitely think you caught the big oops in that film. I was thinking right away, "Oh, no, don't tell me he actually has a motive! Come on, he doesn't need an incentive to be that cruel!" You then mentioned this, which goes to show all over again that only people who have dealt with socio/psychopaths get them fully....if anyone gets them fully. You are right. They will do it just to do it, like a cat killing a butterfly because the butterfly moved. So far, I have found that the ONLY people who understand what I am talking about in the slightest are other former victims.

That movies sounds interesting, although I’m not sure if I’m strong enough to see something like that just yet. It would be like watching a documentary on my past 1.5 years from the sounds of it. But I definitely think you caught the big oops in that film. I was thinking right away, “Oh, no, don’t tell me he actually has a motive! Come on, he doesn’t need an incentive to be that cruel!” You then mentioned this, which goes to show all over again that only people who have dealt with socio/psychopaths get them fully….if anyone gets them fully.

You are right. They will do it just to do it, like a cat killing a butterfly because the butterfly moved.

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]]> By: justus5 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/comment-page-1/#comment-134447 justus5 Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:50:21 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/#comment-134447 Yes, mine could tell me of course their is a tooth fairy, and I would believe him. In the beginning he said it in a nice manner, then later it was very hateful and authoratative. He always said, "No, (my name)" when he wanted me to believe whatever he said without question. The tone he said it in, oh boy. Yeah, I use to always agrue with my bf when she tried to warn me. I was always defending him and told my bf it wasn't like she was telling me because.... Yeah, I have STUPID written on my forehead, although I am not stupid and definitely am fiesty. Yes, mine could tell me of course their is a tooth fairy, and I would believe him. In the beginning he said it in a nice manner, then later it was very hateful and authoratative. He always said, “No, (my name)” when he wanted me to believe whatever he said without question. The tone he said it in, oh boy.

Yeah, I use to always agrue with my bf when she tried to warn me. I was always defending him and told my bf it wasn’t like she was telling me because….

Yeah, I have STUPID written on my forehead, although I am not stupid and definitely am fiesty.

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]]> By: panther http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/comment-page-1/#comment-134444 panther Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:39:40 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/#comment-134444 Oh, and about the magic. YES! A friend of mine said, after I told her in detail all he'd done, "What the hell do you see in this a***hole?" My response? "Uh, you don't understand...it's like a spell...like he has...something. I dunno." I went to grad school with her, and she knew me as being very sharp, so this really didn't compute for her. I now think that being smart, feisty, and tough actually makes you a challenge for a sociopath who is tired of easy prey! But yes...there is this element of, "DOPE!" as I palm my forehead! If it looks like s**t, and smells like s**t, and tastes like s**t...wait, why are you tasting s**t? Oh, and about the magic. YES! A friend of mine said, after I told her in detail all he’d done, “What the hell do you see in this a***hole?”

My response? “Uh, you don’t understand…it’s like a spell…like he has…something. I dunno.”

I went to grad school with her, and she knew me as being very sharp, so this really didn’t compute for her.

I now think that being smart, feisty, and tough actually makes you a challenge for a sociopath who is tired of easy prey!

But yes…there is this element of, “DOPE!” as I palm my forehead! If it looks like s**t, and smells like s**t, and tastes like s**t…wait, why are you tasting s**t?

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]]> By: panther http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/comment-page-1/#comment-134442 panther Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:33:41 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/#comment-134442 Hahha, hi justus5. No, I am completely new here. I've been hanging around reading for about a month, then finally got the guts to post. If you want to see the panther101 comment, here is my little/HUGE intro in the comment section of this post: http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2009/03/02/after-the-sociopath-how-do-we-heal-part-5-getting-angry/ So, yours could make you believe in the tooth fairy too? Someone on her posted that their spath could tell you it was raining outside when the sun was shining, and you'd believe them. My spath was really good at this gaslighting stuff. He used to tell me that I did things I knew I hadn't done, and then he'd tell me that I had BLACK OUTS where I did things and forgot or imagined things happening which never happened, and this is all because I am unfortunately delusional, which is because unfortunately I have been programmed that way because someone a long time ago must have hurt me and now I have issues. Hahha, hi justus5. No, I am completely new here. I’ve been hanging around reading for about a month, then finally got the guts to post. If you want to see the panther101 comment, here is my little/HUGE intro in the comment section of this post: http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/.....ing-angry/

So, yours could make you believe in the tooth fairy too? Someone on her posted that their spath could tell you it was raining outside when the sun was shining, and you’d believe them.

My spath was really good at this gaslighting stuff. He used to tell me that I did things I knew I hadn’t done, and then he’d tell me that I had BLACK OUTS where I did things and forgot or imagined things happening which never happened, and this is all because I am unfortunately delusional, which is because unfortunately I have been programmed that way because someone a long time ago must have hurt me and now I have issues.

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]]> By: justus5 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/comment-page-1/#comment-134436 justus5 Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:07:58 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/#comment-134436 Hi Panter, I am not sure I have seen you here before but I haven't been on for awhile either. Yeah, gaslighting is an amazing thing. Normal people don't think that way and it is hard to figure out when you are being gaslighted. While mine was gaslighting me and I was unaware and about lost my mind. In hindsight I able to look back and laugh. I guess I laugh at myself for being an adult and falling for a magic trick. Geesh. No wonder it is so fun for them (being they are evil)....they must think, "Really? It's actually driving her mad.She's an adult. Idiot ....THERE IS NO TOOTH FAIRY." Hi Panter, I am not sure I have seen you here before but I haven’t been on for awhile either.

Yeah, gaslighting is an amazing thing. Normal people don’t think that way and it is hard to figure out when you are being gaslighted.

While mine was gaslighting me and I was unaware and about lost my mind. In hindsight I able to look back and laugh. I guess I laugh at myself for being an adult and falling for a magic trick. Geesh. No wonder it is so fun for them (being they are evil)….they must think, “Really? It’s actually driving her mad.She’s an adult. Idiot ….THERE IS NO TOOTH FAIRY.”

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]]> By: panther http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/comment-page-1/#comment-134431 panther Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:46:35 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/#comment-134431 Very helpful read. Thank you Donna. Very helpful read. Thank you Donna.

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]]> By: lesson learned http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/comment-page-1/#comment-105133 lesson learned Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:30:20 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/#comment-105133 coping, Read the O for umbrella article. That should be an eye opener for ya :) LL coping,

Read the O for umbrella article.

That should be an eye opener for ya :)

LL

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]]> By: coping http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/comment-page-1/#comment-105132 coping Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:17:39 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/04/29/gaslight-a-glimpse-of-psychopathic-manipulations/#comment-105132 Wow...gaslight!!! So there is a term for it!! I am so HAPPY I found this... Thank you Wow…gaslight!!! So there is a term for it!! I am so HAPPY I found this…

Thank you

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