Comments on: ASK Dr. LEEDOM: What is the difference between bipolar disorder and sociopathy?

By: OxDrover

OxDrover — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:44:54 +0000

Dear Tilly,

First off, I am confused about why you were “recently” (how recently?) “playing” this guy for “business reasons.”

It is also my understanding that gun ownership is prohibited in OZ so this must also mean he is a criminal.

Tilly, my dear, I am going to say this: NO MATTER WHAT gain you might get from any “business deal” with a psychoopath it is UNWISE TO EVER INTERACT WITH THEM…..”playing” them is like playing with a poison snake! Pretending to be just like them (especially the criminal ones with guns) is a good way to get yourself killed, which apparently they have threatened to do recently.

Tilly, in order to keep ourselves safe, and to use our good LF knowledge of what these people are capabale of for our benefit, pseudo-bonding with these people for a little “business deal” (or even a big one) is UNWISE to the LIMIT. Tilly, I’m not even inclined to “boink” you, I am STUNNED at you “playing with fire” like this. You have been through so much, WHY ARE YOU GOING BACK INTO THE BURNING BUILDING? What in that building is so exciting or valuable that you would do such a thing?

My personal opinion is that you need to take a good sit down and see what you got (outside of a “good deal”) in doing this dangerous thing. It sounds like it was “exciting” all right, is it the excitement you got from conning the con? I can definitely see why your son was frustrated with you dealing with these people. Tilly, you know I have great affection for you and that I pray for you, but keep in mind that “God helps those who help themselves.” God in my opinion can’t stop us froom destroying ourselves if we are determined to do so, and deliberately dealing with and trying to con a con is one of those SELF DESTRUCTIVE things.

I realize what I am saying may be hurtful to you, Tilly, and you know that my purpose is NOT to hurt you, but give you a heads up in what YOU are doing to expose yourself to this kind of person. You have to get through the class with the teacher for your own long term benefit, but dealing with criminals or people who exibit any signs of Psychopathy is TOTALLY NOT GOOD JUDGMENT OR WISE. (((Hugs)) and I always pray fo ryou.

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By: geminigirl

geminigirl — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:43:23 +0000

Tilly, dearest, WHY oh WHY are you hanging out with total jerks like these two you mentioned?Do you feel the need for excitement and drama in your life? You are much better off, believe me,to go totally NC, with ALL of them, Period. Dont second guess yourself.I assume you ar not a masochist, so why are you even wasting time with these scum and low-lives? You are playing with fire, one of these creeps could hurt or kill you.If you play mind games with these low lives,YOU may get burned.It DOESNT MATTER if they ar narcs, Sociopaths, Bi-polars, or just your average crazy,-YOU NEED THEM LIKE A DOSE OF LEPROSY OR THE CLAP!!RUnRun Run from all of them.You say you came out unscathed, [so far}, you are playing with fire, why are you doing this?You cant reason with these people, they CANT be your friends, they dont know how to be a friend.Gem.X

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By: Tilly

Tilly — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:54:47 +0000

I am only interested in all of this data as information to empower me in the future. There seems to be a lot of people over the last five years who proudly claim to be “bi-polar”…almost like it is fashionable. And “bi-polar” is very much an excuse for all types of illegal behaviour.

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By: Tilly

Tilly — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:50:31 +0000

He displayed all the behaviours of a psychopath and of being manic. He said that we shared a “special bond” because we were the same. He “joked”: “you are my pseudo fiance”. I read that as trying to suck me in so that later he could devalue and discard me. What do you think? Am I being paranoid?

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By: Tilly

Tilly — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:47:15 +0000

I>E> “FRIENDSHIP” in inverted comas.

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By: Tilly

Tilly — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:45:05 +0000

Could you please confirm the following for me?
1. WHAT are the “purple” pills?
2. Is there such a thing as bipolar who never goes down? (only “normal” and manic)?
3.Is this man a sociopath?
4. Is he also bipolar, or is it just the pills making him manic?
5.Is this man a bi-polar psychopath?
6. Is this man just bi-polar only?

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By: Tilly

Tilly — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:42:20 +0000

OMG!!! you are an angel from heaven! I have been praying everyday for this information!!!
I have just had an awful experience with a man who said he was “bi-polar”. I had to deal with him on a business level. To get the deal that was good for me I had to get to know him.
He said he takes “purple pills” daily. He said he often takes more than required because they make him so high. He said to me that, ” I am one of those types of bi-polars who doesn’t have the down times. I am iether “normal/neutral ” or manic. When I take extra purple pills, then I always am much happier/higher than usual.”
Because of my history I treated this man like “as if ” he were a narcissist from day one. He responded to all the compliments and played right into my hands. I also told him that I have never loved anyone and I don’t know what it feels like to love. I said I see people like they are buses…that “there is always another one coming around the corner”. I said people are just floor shows and there will be another floor show next week. He immediately identified, and whilst I played the role he was no threat.However he never stopped looking for ways to exploit me. Even after he “knew we were the same”. I told him “I would rather have a toffe apple” than have sex. I showed him all my weapons (easy off etc). HE LOVED THAT!! HE AGREED WITH ME about everything and showed me his gun that he wasn’t meant to have!!
The awful part was when i had to go no contact (because his psychopath mate tried to hurt me emotionally because he was jealous of our friendship) . It was difficult.
But i did it and came out (so far) unscathed.

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By: martin

martin — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:34:54 +0000

Depression is one of those disorders which most people face in there life as some stage for one reason or the other. If it’s children the pressure of studies gets over their head and if it’s adults the pressure of work attracts depression. Rather than going on drugs, one should look for the reason behind there problem . Keeping your self busy and changing the schedule also helps sometimes to get over stress and depression.
The best way to get over stress, depression and anxiety is to take a break from your regular schedule, go out, and take good sleep. This helps in clearing the mind and try consulting a specialist who can suggest you as how you can get over your problem. You can have all necessary information about this on http://www.xanax-effects.com There are various prescription drugs to get over anxiety and depression, but these should only be used in accordance with the instruction of a physician and going on anti depressants should be the last option.

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By: keeping_faith

keeping_faith — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:31:57 +0000

Liane,

The only problem I see with understanding and observing for the “inner triangle” is that sociopaths, in the beginning, are so good at imitating these positive behaviors. I didn’t recognize the incapability and inconsistency until late.

What I am afraid of is that we look for the negatives of the inner triangle and run like hell maybe prematurely.

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By: OxDrover

OxDrover — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:18:51 +0000

Though this is an older article, I had not seen it before. In my situation with a psychopath I call the Trojan HOrse psychopath (professionally diagnosed) he was also diagnosed and treated for bi-polar disorder. In the time I knew him, it appeared that his bi-polar disorder was “under control.” I saw no obvious manic or depressive episodes.

I have also known other people with bi-polar who when not manic were apparently “reasonable” people, but who, when Manic, were WAAAAY out in left field with psychopathic type behavior.

I have also known others who were not “diagnosed” professionally with either disorder, that I would have diagnosed as both bi-polar and psychopathic, with the psychopathic behavior being more out of control during manic episodes and more violent. Apparently when they were not manic they could “keep a lid” on it better at least publicly. During episodes of mania, though, they seemed to lose all impulse control or judgment. Several of them would “self medicate” with alcohol or drugs during manic episodes which increased the violence and poor judgment and little impulse control, making a dangerous combination.

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