Comments on: Female sociopath first described 4,000 years ago! http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/ Wake up to the danger of sociopaths Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:17:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ox Drover http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/comment-page-3/#comment-141462 Ox Drover Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:06:27 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/#comment-141462 Nancies, Milo and Sky, I agree, and it is like the old saying about "being up to my ass in alligators, can't find time to drain the swamp" and I like to add, "and then someone sets my pants on fire." Instinctively they know it seems how to keep us fighting off the 1,000 small alligators so that we don't have time to drain the swamp, or to see the bigger picture of what is going on with them. In the letters to the Trojan Horse Psychopath that we found is the TH-P's room after his arrest, my P son, Patrick, told the TH-P HOW to keep me disoriented by many small things, like ordering things on my credit card and having them shipped to my house. To turn my cell phone service off and on, remove the addresses from my phone, steal my mail so bills got paid late or services cut off....etc. keeping me disoriented by many small "crazy" things. At one point I can remember lying awake in my bed wondering if I had ordered one of those "get rich in real estate with no money down for only $49.00" things off late night TV which showed up in my mail and on my credit card bill---DID I order that? I don't remember doing it. Am I crazy? When was the last time I paid the light bill? Did the bill come in the mail? Am I crazy? Then more recently when I realized that he had done other things with my important papers---car titles and so on. That was when I had to get 4 vehicle titles replaced and I didn't want to tell the ladies in the DMV that "an ex-convict from Texas went through my personal papers and just randomly destroyed some of them four years ago to fark with my sanity..." I can see the "yea, right, lady..." look on their faces, so I made up a more believable LIE to tell them, because the truth was too FAR OUT TO BELIEVE! LOL By keeping us off balance in subtle and small ways, and never letting us have TIME and LEISURE to think STRAIGHT we make some bad decisions or no decision, which is a decision of a sort. It is like a magician and the "slight of hand" distraction they do. Nancies, Milo and Sky,

I agree, and it is like the old saying about “being up to my ass in alligators, can’t find time to drain the swamp” and I like to add, “and then someone sets my pants on fire.”

Instinctively they know it seems how to keep us fighting off the 1,000 small alligators so that we don’t have time to drain the swamp, or to see the bigger picture of what is going on with them.

In the letters to the Trojan Horse Psychopath that we found is the TH-P’s room after his arrest, my P son, Patrick, told the TH-P HOW to keep me disoriented by many small things, like ordering things on my credit card and having them shipped to my house. To turn my cell phone service off and on, remove the addresses from my phone, steal my mail so bills got paid late or services cut off….etc. keeping me disoriented by many small “crazy” things.

At one point I can remember lying awake in my bed wondering if I had ordered one of those “get rich in real estate with no money down for only $49.00″ things off late night TV which showed up in my mail and on my credit card bill—DID I order that? I don’t remember doing it. Am I crazy? When was the last time I paid the light bill? Did the bill come in the mail? Am I crazy?

Then more recently when I realized that he had done other things with my important papers—car titles and so on. That was when I had to get 4 vehicle titles replaced and I didn’t want to tell the ladies in the DMV that “an ex-convict from Texas went through my personal papers and just randomly destroyed some of them four years ago to fark with my sanity…” I can see the “yea, right, lady…” look on their faces, so I made up a more believable LIE to tell them, because the truth was too FAR OUT TO BELIEVE! LOL

By keeping us off balance in subtle and small ways, and never letting us have TIME and LEISURE to think STRAIGHT we make some bad decisions or no decision, which is a decision of a sort. It is like a magician and the “slight of hand” distraction they do.

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]]> By: dancingnancies http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/comment-page-3/#comment-141456 dancingnancies Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:28:06 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/#comment-141456 yeah, i second sky there. But that's just it, you see? It is never their fault. It's even your fault for "believing" the lie- even though <b>THEY'RE</b> the ones<i> who lied in the first place</i>, THEY were the catalyst for the damage, <i>but somehow, it's still <b>your</b> fault</I>. Does not compute. See the word salad, the mental gymnastics, the sleight of hand there? That's what you've got to be mindful of. Just in that example, I think it says a lot about why deprogramming from jumping through so many mental loops is so much work. This is the attempt at "fogging" up your mind... distancing you from <b>truth</b>, so you stay "disoriented" and therefore remain vulnerable to more manipulation. yeah, i second sky there. But that’s just it, you see? It is never their fault. It’s even your fault for “believing” the lie- even though THEY’RE the ones who lied in the first place, THEY were the catalyst for the damage, but somehow, it’s still your fault. Does not compute. See the word salad, the mental gymnastics, the sleight of hand there? That’s what you’ve got to be mindful of.

Just in that example, I think it says a lot about why deprogramming from jumping through so many mental loops is so much work. This is the attempt at “fogging” up your mind… distancing you from truth, so you stay “disoriented” and therefore remain vulnerable to more manipulation.

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]]> By: MiLo http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/comment-page-3/#comment-141419 MiLo Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:20:24 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/#comment-141419 Louise & Sky - Thanks for understanding. You know of all the unbelievable hideous things she has done, some much worse than this, it is always this one that comes into my mind. I guess it was my first - SOMETHING IS SO WRONG - will someone please explain this to me - moment. Sometimes, I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that I raised a monster. Being a part of Lovefraud, I realize and cherish the fact that I had a loving, caring family and was blessed to have married a good, honest man. When I read what most of you have gone through all your lives, I feel guilty complaining about my life with P/daughter. I give you guys SO MUCH CREDIT. I just don't get to say that often enough. Louise & Sky – Thanks for understanding. You know of all the unbelievable hideous things she has done, some much worse than this, it is always this one that comes into my mind. I guess it was my first – SOMETHING IS SO WRONG – will someone please explain this to me – moment.

Sometimes, I still can’t wrap my mind around the fact that I raised a monster. Being a part of Lovefraud, I realize and cherish the fact that I had a loving, caring family and was blessed to have married a good, honest man. When I read what most of you have gone through all your lives, I feel guilty complaining about my life with P/daughter.

I give you guys SO MUCH CREDIT. I just don’t get to say that often enough.

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]]> By: skylar http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/comment-page-3/#comment-141414 skylar Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:50:11 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/#comment-141414 Milo, that is typical spath logic. They ALL believe you deserve to be duped because they were able to dupe you. It would be really funny if someone conned her into believing she actually had AIDS, then it would be all her fault for being stupid enough to believe it. Milo,
that is typical spath logic. They ALL believe you deserve to be duped because they were able to dupe you.

It would be really funny if someone conned her into believing she actually had AIDS, then it would be all her fault for being stupid enough to believe it.

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]]> By: Louise http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/comment-page-3/#comment-141411 Louise Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:10:45 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/#comment-141411 one/joy: UGGGHH...I know...it's frustrating and maddening!!!! :-( MiLo: Horrible...poisonous snakes... one/joy:

UGGGHH…I know…it’s frustrating and maddening!!!! :-(

MiLo:

Horrible…poisonous snakes…

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]]> By: MiLo http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/comment-page-3/#comment-141410 MiLo Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:01:47 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/#comment-141410 My P/daughter told her best friends she was dying of AIDS and let them go on believing it for almost 6 months. Her reason, they went to the mall without her. Her comment after she was caught, if they were stupid enough to believe it - they deserved it. My P/daughter told her best friends she was dying of AIDS and let them go on believing it for almost 6 months. Her reason, they went to the mall without her. Her comment after she was caught, if they were stupid enough to believe it – they deserved it.

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]]> By: one/joy_step_at_a_time http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/comment-page-3/#comment-141408 one/joy_step_at_a_time Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:29:26 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/#comment-141408 Louise - okay, gotta say my female spath even conned (online) her real life best friend's daughter. there are just not enough expletives. Louise – okay, gotta say my female spath even conned (online) her real life best friend’s daughter. there are just not enough expletives.

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]]> By: Louise http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/comment-page-3/#comment-141399 Louise Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:27:40 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/#comment-141399 Women spaths are the worst. I was a victim of one and she is poison and no one sees it. Typical. Women spaths are the worst. I was a victim of one and she is poison and no one sees it. Typical.

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]]> By: skylar http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/comment-page-3/#comment-141397 skylar Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:21:15 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/#comment-141397 Hi Nancy, yep. I agree, the female spath causes much more cog/dis. She throws you off balance and it's hard to regain balance because she's that good. Women learn how to be social and empathetic from very early on. They are good at it. If it's a female spath, then it's that much harder to believe it's fake. Only one spath that I know, was as good as a woman spath: my ex-spath. He was really, really good. Nobody can tell. I'm the only one who figured it out by virtue of sticking with him for 25 years. Once I tell people, then some of them get an AHA! moment, because of his eccentricities. But they all say, "that's too bad, I REALLY LIKED him." Hi Nancy,
yep. I agree, the female spath causes much more cog/dis. She throws you off balance and it’s hard to regain balance because she’s that good. Women learn how to be social and empathetic from very early on. They are good at it. If it’s a female spath, then it’s that much harder to believe it’s fake.

Only one spath that I know, was as good as a woman spath: my ex-spath. He was really, really good. Nobody can tell. I’m the only one who figured it out by virtue of sticking with him for 25 years. Once I tell people, then some of them get an AHA! moment, because of his eccentricities. But they all say, “that’s too bad, I REALLY LIKED him.”

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]]> By: dancingnancies http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/comment-page-3/#comment-141395 dancingnancies Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:41:34 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/02/02/female-sociopath-first-described-4000-years-ago/#comment-141395 liane, you said "There is something inherently more repulsive and unbelievable about a female sociopath. " I agree. I think it has to do with societal conditioning and expectations... and you do NOT and i mean DO NOT expect to see the eyes of a frothy mouthed demon behind the "I wouldn't hurt a fly..." mask of a female sociopath... it is downright disturbing. As all sociopaths are.. not that female sociopaths are any more or less damaging than males... but it has to do with how society is set up. Both are equally damaging & disturbing, but there is just something like... Wow. knocks you off your chair about the evil. because like you said, you don't expect it... liane, you said “There is something inherently more repulsive and unbelievable about a female sociopath. ”

I agree. I think it has to do with societal conditioning and expectations… and you do NOT and i mean DO NOT expect to see the eyes of a frothy mouthed demon behind the “I wouldn’t hurt a fly…” mask of a female sociopath… it is downright disturbing. As all sociopaths are.. not that female sociopaths are any more or less damaging than males… but it has to do with how society is set up. Both are equally damaging & disturbing, but there is just something like… Wow. knocks you off your chair about the evil. because like you said, you don’t expect it…

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