Comments on: Sociopaths and their smear campaigns http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/ Wake up to the danger of sociopaths Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:17:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: kim frederick http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/comment-page-4/#comment-102602 kim frederick Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:47:27 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/#comment-102602 Yes, I'm confused, as well. Can you give us more information, so that we might e able to help? Yes, I’m confused, as well. Can you give us more information, so that we might e able to help?

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]]> By: shabbychic http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/comment-page-4/#comment-102596 shabbychic Wed, 19 Jan 2011 07:14:32 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/#comment-102596 I'm not understanding this. I’m not understanding this.

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]]> By: Atlanta One http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/comment-page-4/#comment-102588 Atlanta One Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:06:29 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/#comment-102588 All my brother said for years on her command was " We figured out where you live" and "I can kick your a@3, we're blackmailing you" and "we know here you work..." A formerly nice Indian/Yugo boy named "S." All my brother said for years on her command was ” We figured out where you live” and “I can kick your a@3, we’re blackmailing you” and “we know here you work…”

A formerly nice Indian/Yugo boy named “S.”

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]]> By: Atlanta One http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/comment-page-4/#comment-102586 Atlanta One Wed, 19 Jan 2011 05:51:17 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/#comment-102586 OK- I read the smear campaigns and my question to the board is simple--I know the difference in diagnosis between a BPD and a sociopath...but the smear campaigns sound mostly similar...my BPD stalker (Atlanta female "hotel" lawyer...) sounds just like these stories...just curious as I am going on 11 years of her BS/lying/control and no longer have any contact with other human beings as she systematically picked everyone off, often via proxy to control, left me without any human relations...she picks off even people like the tennis pro where I hnag out and hundreds of people that I haven't even met...I just met her for 30 seconds as an acquintance of an acquintance at a Big Ten Picnic in Atlanta 11 years ago...I now think she wanted to date me...I went no contact a very long time ago...should I take her to court? OK- I read the smear campaigns and my question to the board is simple–I know the difference in diagnosis between a BPD and a sociopath…but the smear campaigns sound mostly similar…my BPD stalker (Atlanta female “hotel” lawyer…) sounds just like these stories…just curious as I am going on 11 years of her BS/lying/control and no longer have any contact with other human beings as she systematically picked everyone off, often via proxy to control, left me without any human relations…she picks off even people like the tennis pro where I hnag out and hundreds of people that I haven’t even met…I just met her for 30 seconds as an acquintance of an acquintance at a Big Ten Picnic in Atlanta 11 years ago…I now think she wanted to date me…I went no contact a very long time ago…should I take her to court?

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]]> By: ErinBrock http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/comment-page-4/#comment-93728 ErinBrock Mon, 15 Nov 2010 05:52:33 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/#comment-93728 Hope: Own it baby! It IS hard. You WILL feel jilted......but like my GF is finding.....HOW WORTH IT is has been, because there divorce isn't even in court yet.....and spath has slipped his own mask to the sheriff, the attorney (both) AND the community....which the judge also lives in, and the GAL and child therapists......! She realized this just this week.....they separated in March. Word of mouth is a powerful thing.....think about it.....and MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU. Mums the word...... Keep your focus on what you want IN THE END! Not the here and now. End result baby......grab it! Hope:
Own it baby!
It IS hard. You WILL feel jilted……but like my GF is finding…..HOW WORTH IT is has been, because there divorce isn’t even in court yet…..and spath has slipped his own mask to the sheriff, the attorney (both) AND the community….which the judge also lives in, and the GAL and child therapists……!
She realized this just this week…..they separated in March.
Word of mouth is a powerful thing…..think about it…..and MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU.

Mums the word……
Keep your focus on what you want IN THE END! Not the here and now.
End result baby……grab it!

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]]> By: Hopeforjoy http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/comment-page-4/#comment-93727 Hopeforjoy Mon, 15 Nov 2010 05:37:06 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/#comment-93727 Erin Brock, It's hard to be in the grocery store line and get the snub and hold my tongue. Gotta do it, it will be hard but this is good advice. It might take time but he will slip, no bad mouthing the spath (even though i really, really want to), just cool, calm and collected. Smiling through the hurt and knowing I will get the last laugh. Spath will give them the message about my being crazy but if I am completely normal, they will go WTF? My pointing out his many faults will only cause me to look like the jilted, bitter ex. Good message EB, thanks for the input. I will think of these posts when I'm at the next hockey game! Erin Brock,

It’s hard to be in the grocery store line and get the snub and hold my tongue. Gotta do it, it will be hard but this is good advice. It might take time but he will slip, no bad mouthing the spath (even though i really, really want to), just cool, calm and collected. Smiling through the hurt and knowing I will get the last laugh.

Spath will give them the message about my being crazy but if I am completely normal, they will go WTF?

My pointing out his many faults will only cause me to look like the jilted, bitter ex. Good message EB, thanks for the input. I will think of these posts when I’m at the next hockey game!

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]]> By: Hopeforjoy http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/comment-page-4/#comment-93726 Hopeforjoy Mon, 15 Nov 2010 05:27:49 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/#comment-93726 One steppers, My therapist said that he values the look of a family. This is how he passes a sensitive because he values Christmas and family traditions. He likes old television shows and movies like 'Its a Wonderful Life'. I used to think it was sweet but now I believe it is because he wants that perfect family because deep inside, he's empty. That is why he is pulling out all the stops. The offers of travel and monitary things. Bribery. For you, just listening to the spath for 5 hours had to be mind melting. Your gray matter was probably getting scrambled up like yesterdays breakfast. Lordy, they lay it on thick. The crazy making continues long after that conversation. But now you have the wisdom to know how messed up that psycho is, now it's time for you. To know how special you are to survived such evil. Some people don't get out, they get addicted to something or take their own lives. It's sad to think that we might have been one of those people. One steppers,

My therapist said that he values the look of a family. This is how he passes a sensitive because he values Christmas and family traditions. He likes old television shows and movies like ‘Its a Wonderful Life’. I used to think it was sweet but now I believe it is because he wants that perfect family because deep inside, he’s empty. That is why he is pulling out all the stops. The offers of travel and monitary things. Bribery.

For you, just listening to the spath for 5 hours had to be mind melting. Your gray matter was probably getting scrambled up like yesterdays breakfast. Lordy, they lay it on thick. The crazy making continues long after that conversation. But now you have the wisdom to know how messed up that psycho is, now it’s time for you. To know how special you are to survived such evil. Some people don’t get out, they get addicted to something or take their own lives.

It’s sad to think that we might have been one of those people.

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]]> By: ErinBrock http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/comment-page-4/#comment-93725 ErinBrock Mon, 15 Nov 2010 05:26:44 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/#comment-93725 Hope; Yes.....JUST hold your head up high and continue to be THE person you have always been.....and keep things close to the hip! DOn't discuss anything but the kids activities with other hockey parents..... NOW....heres the caveat......he will continue....you have to let him as you have no control over this anyways. bite your tongue and hold your head high......they will either believe him (for now), Not believe him (great) or file his remarks and be confirmed when you have a public outburst. (WHICH YOU"LL NEVER DO!!!!!!) Eventually, he won't be able to sway people quick enough.....and his mask will slip to these people.....and they will alienate him.....due to his own behaviors and they lies they were told......you will continue to be 'who' you have always been.....not speaking bad of him, not speaking of him at all in public.......and they will think.....dang.....we were wrong to misjudge her, or believe him.....LESSON TO THEM ALL! You will need self control and patience.....and understand this from the GETGO! In time.....you will gain ALL respect for taking the high road. I have a GF who is realizing this currently. Spath is going around town trying to gain support.....people looked at herthrough one eye for several months.....it IS upsetting and it DID upset her....yet she stuck to her guns....and remained smiling at people who had one eye closed and hesitant to speak with her......she continued volunteering in childrens classrooms, sub teaching, bowling, going to the parades in town and saying hello to everyone she would before....and smiled. People who smile.....make others wonder, when they've heard weird things about them......they interpret this as.....if I was XXX or YYYY in her position, I wouldn't be smiling, but she always seems happy.....hmmmmmwhy?????? And they pay attention......and THEN.....eventually, (because SPATH is NOT going to stop, he's going to push them harder to convince) but eventually.....the scales tip. Even then.....continue with your smiles and greetings....whethre its at the hockey game or kids school or grocery store....wherever.......even when you feel down.....keep a smile on your face for public consumption.....always ask people who engage you about THEIR lives.....hows your new job, I hear Jr scored 2 goals last week, I love the color of your house, new paint job? Engage them in THEM. If they ask you.....keep is simple. Oh, jr got an A on his science project and Jress is getting ready for the prom, she's so excited....yadayada.....we are doing well, thank you....life is good, no complaints. It will ALL come back around and bite him in the ass.....ya just gotta make it through the emotional crap that hurts in the meantime......of people questioning YOU! But....you can do it......just know the outcome, how to get there, and keep this in the forefront of your mind when you feel like going OFF on the grocery clerk who snubs you, or your neighbor or an old couples friend of yours both..... It's a good lesson is WHO is really there to stand behind you....becuase they have paid attention to 'who' you are, all along...... XXOO EB Hope;
Yes…..JUST hold your head up high and continue to be THE person you have always been…..and keep things close to the hip! DOn’t discuss anything but the kids activities with other hockey parents…..
NOW….heres the caveat……he will continue….you have to let him as you have no control over this anyways. bite your tongue and hold your head high……they will either believe him (for now), Not believe him (great) or file his remarks and be confirmed when you have a public outburst. (WHICH YOU”LL NEVER DO!!!!!!)
Eventually, he won’t be able to sway people quick enough…..and his mask will slip to these people…..and they will alienate him…..due to his own behaviors and they lies they were told……you will continue to be ‘who’ you have always been…..not speaking bad of him, not speaking of him at all in public…….and they will think…..dang…..we were wrong to misjudge her, or believe him…..LESSON TO THEM ALL!
You will need self control and patience…..and understand this from the GETGO!
In time…..you will gain ALL respect for taking the high road.

I have a GF who is realizing this currently. Spath is going around town trying to gain support…..people looked at herthrough one eye for several months…..it IS upsetting and it DID upset her….yet she stuck to her guns….and remained smiling at people who had one eye closed and hesitant to speak with her……she continued volunteering in childrens classrooms, sub teaching, bowling, going to the parades in town and saying hello to everyone she would before….and smiled. People who smile…..make others wonder, when they’ve heard weird things about them……they interpret this as…..if I was XXX or YYYY in her position, I wouldn’t be smiling, but she always seems happy…..hmmmmmwhy?????? And they pay attention……and THEN…..eventually, (because SPATH is NOT going to stop, he’s going to push them harder to convince) but eventually…..the scales tip.
Even then…..continue with your smiles and greetings….whethre its at the hockey game or kids school or grocery store….wherever…….even when you feel down…..keep a smile on your face for public consumption…..always ask people who engage you about THEIR lives…..hows your new job, I hear Jr scored 2 goals last week, I love the color of your house, new paint job? Engage them in THEM.
If they ask you…..keep is simple. Oh, jr got an A on his science project and Jress is getting ready for the prom, she’s so excited….yadayada…..we are doing well, thank you….life is good, no complaints.

It will ALL come back around and bite him in the ass…..ya just gotta make it through the emotional crap that hurts in the meantime……of people questioning YOU!
But….you can do it……just know the outcome, how to get there, and keep this in the forefront of your mind when you feel like going OFF on the grocery clerk who snubs you, or your neighbor or an old couples friend of yours both…..

It’s a good lesson is WHO is really there to stand behind you….becuase they have paid attention to ‘who’ you are, all along……

XXOO
EB

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]]> By: one_step_at_a_time http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/comment-page-4/#comment-93724 one_step_at_a_time Mon, 15 Nov 2010 05:04:43 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/#comment-93724 Hope4joy - they are scary. keep going, you are doing so well! did you see this quote? 'To a sociopath, your ONLY value is the purpose you serve to their intended immediate ends. Those intended ends shift and change, and so must the means, altering YOUR value. ' tells me A LOT about their M.O. We KNOW they try everything in their arsenals to see what works. the last time i talked to the spath she did this - over 5 hours told me many many stories until she thought she got one she could get traction with. Maybe she did, but not with me. Hope4joy – they are scary. keep going, you are doing so well!

did you see this quote?
‘To a sociopath, your ONLY value is the purpose you serve to their intended immediate ends. Those intended ends shift and change, and so must the means, altering YOUR value. ‘

tells me A LOT about their M.O. We KNOW they try everything in their arsenals to see what works. the last time i talked to the spath she did this – over 5 hours told me many many stories until she thought she got one she could get traction with. Maybe she did, but not with me.

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]]> By: Hopeforjoy http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/comment-page-4/#comment-93719 Hopeforjoy Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:45:11 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2007/01/07/sociopaths-and-their-smear-campaigns/#comment-93719 Thanks One-steppers and Oxy, I feel better too, so much more grounded. If I'm sounding more self assured I do owe much of it to your advice. There is NO WAY I could have come this far and got out of the fog without you. No way in heck. I still question how a person could be capable of smearing you and keep saying that they love you. Disordered people are so scary. Thanks One-steppers and Oxy,

I feel better too, so much more grounded. If I’m sounding more self assured I do owe much of it to your advice.

There is NO WAY I could have come this far and got out of the fog without you. No way in heck. I still question how a person could be capable of smearing you and keep saying that they love you. Disordered people are so scary.

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