Comments on: Child victims of sociopathic parents http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/ Wake up to the danger of sociopaths Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:17:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ana http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-144405 Ana Mon, 21 Nov 2011 01:41:14 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/#comment-144405 Movingon, I think we should take up a collection for your father! :) Movingon,
I think we should take up a collection for your father! :)

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]]> By: Ox Drover http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-144399 Ox Drover Mon, 21 Nov 2011 01:21:21 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/#comment-144399 Movingon, Yea, he is using the court to hurt you....because he DOES ENJOY it, it is ATTENTION...and they thrive on that. You may be getting some of the money he is supposed to pay for your daughter (his daughter as well) to go to school, but you know, you are being charged in BLOOD/EMOTIONAL coin, and only you can determine if it is worth it, or if it would be better spent just letting the Money go. ONLY you can decide that. I understand your father! LOL Probably not much time. Tell him I will go his bail! LOL Movingon,

Yea, he is using the court to hurt you….because he DOES ENJOY it, it is ATTENTION…and they thrive on that.

You may be getting some of the money he is supposed to pay for your daughter (his daughter as well) to go to school, but you know, you are being charged in BLOOD/EMOTIONAL coin, and only you can determine if it is worth it, or if it would be better spent just letting the Money go. ONLY you can decide that.

I understand your father! LOL Probably not much time. Tell him I will go his bail! LOL

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]]> By: MiLo http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-144395 MiLo Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:41:21 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/#comment-144395 moveingon ~ That is outrageous. I think I would ask the judge if you have to stand by and listen to him call your daughter names also. I think I agree with your dad, wise man. moveingon ~ That is outrageous. I think I would ask the judge if you have to stand by and listen to him call your daughter names also.

I think I agree with your dad, wise man.

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]]> By: moveingon http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-144389 moveingon Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:24:11 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/#comment-144389 Children are victims and the courts sometimes aid this. I have been in court proceedings now for 6 years. Last appearance 4th November 2011, same thing child maintenance. I have a court order he pays half for their university costs, which of course he is not going to do. Order arrived yesterday, the spath can insist my daughter be in court in Feb 2012. Why, he has not seen her in 6 years, not paid unless I send in bailiffs etc, and of course he will make sure she is there. I know she will be 19 by this date, but why allow a spath an opportunity to bully her. At his last appearance, he moaned 'I don't even get a father's day card', WTF is wrong with the spath! His last contact 6 years ago he told my daughter via email to f**k off. She was blasé about it, and thinks he is a to**er, but know it hurt her. My daughter is okay about going to court, but I'm not, He will even get the chance to cross examine her ..she can hold her own, but why allow yet more abuse ..I have tried to rationalise it, they know he is a tw*t, and a vexatious litigant ....he thankfully does not even know which university she is studying at ..he is eaten up with jealousy. My poor daughter has even has to submit a statement, he earns over £100k a year, divorced yet again etc etc. My daughter's statement (which she has written) includes 'I have not had any contact with Mr X for 6 years, and I do not want any contact now or at any time in the future. I respectively ask the court not to disclose any of my personal details to Mr X, inclusive of where I am studying'. That of course is like igniting a fuse ...her statement, but I know exactly how his twisted mind works. This hearing is for a full day. Every time we are in court he calls me a 'whore, a slut, child abuser etc' and they just let him rant on. I can take this carp, but my daughter ..no ..no ..no. I know she is an adult etc, but she is still my baby. I maybe over protective, but he is representing himself (he has lost every time), and being superior to everyone else he of course is always right. I guess I should be grateful he has stayed away, but married to someone off the internet, divorced 15 months later and now at a loose end and we all know what that means. I think he 'enjoys' court, even though he loses, and I am convinced its his only way to contact me, to keep on abusing. My dad (82) asked me yesterday, 'how long do you think I'd get for murder at my age?' ..lol ..Rant over .. Children are victims and the courts sometimes aid this. I have been in court proceedings now for 6 years. Last appearance 4th November 2011, same thing child maintenance. I have a court order he pays half for their university costs, which of course he is not going to do. Order arrived yesterday, the spath can insist my daughter be in court in Feb 2012. Why, he has not seen her in 6 years, not paid unless I send in bailiffs etc, and of course he will make sure she is there. I know she will be 19 by this date, but why allow a spath an opportunity to bully her. At his last appearance, he moaned ‘I don’t even get a father’s day card’, WTF is wrong with the spath! His last contact 6 years ago he told my daughter via email to f**k off. She was blasé about it, and thinks he is a to**er, but know it hurt her.

My daughter is okay about going to court, but I’m not, He will even get the chance to cross examine her ..she can hold her own, but why allow yet more abuse ..I have tried to rationalise it, they know he is a tw*t, and a vexatious litigant ….he thankfully does not even know which university she is studying at ..he is eaten up with jealousy. My poor daughter has even has to submit a statement, he earns over £100k a year, divorced yet again etc etc.

My daughter’s statement (which she has written) includes ‘I have not had any contact with Mr X for 6 years, and I do not want any contact now or at any time in the future. I respectively ask the court not to disclose any of my personal details to Mr X, inclusive of where I am studying’.

That of course is like igniting a fuse …her statement, but I know exactly how his twisted mind works. This hearing is for a full day. Every time we are in court he calls me a ‘whore, a slut, child abuser etc’ and they just let him rant on. I can take this carp, but my daughter ..no ..no ..no.

I know she is an adult etc, but she is still my baby. I maybe over protective, but he is representing himself (he has lost every time), and being superior to everyone else he of course is always right.

I guess I should be grateful he has stayed away, but married to someone off the internet, divorced 15 months later and now at a loose end and we all know what that means. I think he ‘enjoys’ court, even though he loses, and I am convinced its his only way to contact me, to keep on abusing. My dad (82) asked me yesterday, ‘how long do you think I’d get for murder at my age?’ ..lol ..Rant over ..

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]]> By: robxsykobabe http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-108982 robxsykobabe Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:55:19 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/#comment-108982 On the subject of children, this is something Ive been beating myself up with lately... I have known my ex and his now 11 year old son for 4.5 years. I met his son shortly after his 7th birthday. For quite some time his son has stayed at my house with his dad every other weekend. I have accepted him, taken care of him, loved him, and provided for him. HE IS A GREAT KID!!! The sons mother recently got married after dating a man for 4 months. Up to this point, the son had been the sun, moon and stars to his mother and had some difficulty adjusting to the new man moving in and having an 'insta-family' equipped with a 'dad" and 'brother'. My ex's son showed some behavioral reisistance to the change and my ex and I were there for him with a TON of support. We talked and talked and talked about how his son was 'feeling' and 'ways to cope' and 'adjust." I noticed my ex moving towards his son, although it seemed to be in a supportive, warm way. Low and behold...my ex moves in with ME and I inherit an 'insta-family' equiped with a 'husband', 'son" and 'dog' in my 900 square foot condo. I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME ADJUSTING... Not only was I having a hard time adjusting to everyone being here, I was struggling with 'handling' the childs neediness...something I had never 'noticed' before. My ex and I talked about this and I tried suggesting ideas that would PROMPT his son to either form friends at my house or PROMPT independence (like reading a book on his own, listening to music, drawing...you know...kid things you do when you're 'bored'). This was a HUGE point of contention between my ex and I. The more I 'suggested' (and offered ideas) we help his son to gain SOME independence, the more we argued. The more we argued, the more I began to feel 'left out' when his son was at MY house...to the point where I would say to my ex "I feel left out", or "I feel like the third wheel", or "I dont feel like I have any say-so in what goes on at MY house when your sons here." THIS GOT BLAMED ON ME...by saying "you do this to yourself. You could play the game when we play one, or watch tv with us". WAIT A MINUTE...Aren't WE the adults in a relationship? Isnt his son the CHILD? Please dont get me wrong...I had NO PROBLEM with doing 'things' as a family...NO PROBLEM AT ALL... BUT... Something changed...something shifted. I was somehow no longer 'viewed' as a part of the equation. I was the house supplier, driver, good buyer, ect, but I wasnt CONSIDERED? Theres something innately wrong wtih this... On the subject of children, this is something Ive been beating myself up with lately…
I have known my ex and his now 11 year old son for 4.5 years. I met his son shortly after his 7th birthday. For quite some time his son has stayed at my house with his dad every other weekend. I have accepted him, taken care of him, loved him, and provided for him. HE IS A GREAT KID!!!

The sons mother recently got married after dating a man for 4 months. Up to this point, the son had been the sun, moon and stars to his mother and had some difficulty adjusting to the new man moving in and having an ‘insta-family’ equipped with a ‘dad” and ‘brother’. My ex’s son showed some behavioral reisistance to the change and my ex and I were there for him with a TON of support. We talked and talked and talked about how his son was ‘feeling’ and ‘ways to cope’ and ‘adjust.” I noticed my ex moving towards his son, although it seemed to be in a supportive, warm way.

Low and behold…my ex moves in with ME and I inherit an ‘insta-family’ equiped with a ‘husband’, ‘son” and ‘dog’ in my 900 square foot condo. I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME ADJUSTING…

Not only was I having a hard time adjusting to everyone being here, I was struggling with ‘handling’ the childs neediness…something I had never ‘noticed’ before. My ex and I talked about this and I tried suggesting ideas that would PROMPT his son to either form friends at my house or PROMPT independence (like reading a book on his own, listening to music, drawing…you know…kid things you do when you’re ‘bored’).

This was a HUGE point of contention between my ex and I. The more I ‘suggested’ (and offered ideas) we help his son to gain SOME independence, the more we argued. The more we argued, the more I began to feel ‘left out’ when his son was at MY house…to the point where I would say to my ex “I feel left out”, or “I feel like the third wheel”, or “I dont feel like I have any say-so in what goes on at MY house when your sons here.” THIS GOT BLAMED ON ME…by saying “you do this to yourself. You could play the game when we play one, or watch tv with us”.

WAIT A MINUTE…Aren’t WE the adults in a relationship? Isnt his son the CHILD? Please dont get me wrong…I had NO PROBLEM with doing ‘things’ as a family…NO PROBLEM AT ALL…

BUT…

Something changed…something shifted. I was somehow no longer ‘viewed’ as a part of the equation. I was the house supplier, driver, good buyer, ect, but I wasnt CONSIDERED?

Theres something innately wrong wtih this…

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]]> By: OxDrover http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-81205 OxDrover Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:06:27 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/#comment-81205 Dear Honey, I'm glad you checked back in, and I hope you will stay around here and READ AND LEARN. It is a hard road back from the HELL they have sent us spiraling into. My father is also a psychopath and put me through hell as well. I don't even call him a "father" as he only was the DNA donor, the sperm donor psychopath! Being a dad/fathr takes love and commitment and he never had any of that. You've had a rough ride to this age, but I hope you and your mum can repair your relationship and that she can be supportive of you. For having dropped out of school so young you sound well educated and very intelligent so use the internet and books to further your education. I hope also that you are getting some therapy now as well. My hope for you is that you can heal these terrible wounds and get on with a normal life and relationships and a career! You are way too young to be stuck inside because of this man. The BEST REVENGE is a LIFE LIVED WELL, and I think there ase many people here not just me that will say YES we have been DEVESTATED and BROKEN but we will RECOVER and in the end be BETTER than before. I'm glad you can take his name off yourself and get a new start in life with this man not part of it. If necessary to keep him from contacting you, get a restraining order or what ever a court order is called in the UK to keep someone from contacting someone who does NOT want to see them. God bless you, Honey, and don't forget your password this time! Laugh! (((Hugs))))) Dear Honey,

I’m glad you checked back in, and I hope you will stay around here and READ AND LEARN. It is a hard road back from the HELL they have sent us spiraling into. My father is also a psychopath and put me through hell as well. I don’t even call him a “father” as he only was the DNA donor, the sperm donor psychopath! Being a dad/fathr takes love and commitment and he never had any of that.

You’ve had a rough ride to this age, but I hope you and your mum can repair your relationship and that she can be supportive of you. For having dropped out of school so young you sound well educated and very intelligent so use the internet and books to further your education.

I hope also that you are getting some therapy now as well. My hope for you is that you can heal these terrible wounds and get on with a normal life and relationships and a career! You are way too young to be stuck inside because of this man.

The BEST REVENGE is a LIFE LIVED WELL, and I think there ase many people here not just me that will say YES we have been DEVESTATED and BROKEN but we will RECOVER and in the end be BETTER than before.

I’m glad you can take his name off yourself and get a new start in life with this man not part of it. If necessary to keep him from contacting you, get a restraining order or what ever a court order is called in the UK to keep someone from contacting someone who does NOT want to see them.

God bless you, Honey, and don’t forget your password this time! Laugh! (((Hugs)))))

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]]> By: ErinBrock http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-81202 ErinBrock Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:56:00 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/#comment-81202 Honey: Sweetie, i'm sorry!!!! From a coparent (with a spath), I have a heavy heart to know how my kids father treats them. It's horrid, not right and hard to put your head around. I understand others not seeing how much help you need, because I know how others respond to my kids. Respect your father, he's your father.....etc....uhhhhh NOT! Parents don't deserve anything if they are abusive. Being a parent doesn't automatically award you the respect medal from your kids. I hear strength in your voice. I want to wrap my arms around you and hold you.....and tell you.....as I tell my own teenagers.....IT"S NOT YOUR FAULT!!! I'm sorry you have a father as you do. The good news is.......YOU can decide to have a wonderful life. No, not maybe one you 'thought' you would have had.....a few of the players and the script has been tweeked.....BUT, nonetheless.....make it what you want for your future! I see the struggle in my own children. It breaks my heart!!!! I know I can't compensate for the choices their father makes, but I can choose to be the best parent I know how to be....both father AND mother!!! One of my kids was 'cutting' himself several years ago.....I didn't understand the 'reason's ' why as far as getting away from the pain via other pain......He has grown to a place, like you, where he no longer does this. THANK GOD!! It is a sign of dealing in a healthy manner with your emotions....processing, learning and educating yourself about 'what' your dealing with. I wish I could take it all away.....from you....my kids.....and any child who is going through this life with a parental sociopath. I can't. All I can do, is keep a line of communication open, teach good coping skills, encourage heathy communications and model what I would like my children to be and see......and be there to comfort them, educate them, and raise their awareness to the toxicicity in the world. The whole world is not bad......but the bad in the world seems louder than the good. TAKE GOOD CARE..... XXOO EB Honey:
Sweetie, i’m sorry!!!!
From a coparent (with a spath), I have a heavy heart to know how my kids father treats them. It’s horrid, not right and hard to put your head around.
I understand others not seeing how much help you need, because I know how others respond to my kids.
Respect your father, he’s your father…..etc….uhhhhh NOT!
Parents don’t deserve anything if they are abusive. Being a parent doesn’t automatically award you the respect medal from your kids.

I hear strength in your voice. I want to wrap my arms around you and hold you…..and tell you…..as I tell my own teenagers…..IT”S NOT YOUR FAULT!!! I’m sorry you have a father as you do.

The good news is…….YOU can decide to have a wonderful life. No, not maybe one you ‘thought’ you would have had…..a few of the players and the script has been tweeked…..BUT, nonetheless…..make it what you want for your future!

I see the struggle in my own children. It breaks my heart!!!! I know I can’t compensate for the choices their father makes, but I can choose to be the best parent I know how to be….both father AND mother!!!
One of my kids was ‘cutting’ himself several years ago…..I didn’t understand the ‘reason’s ‘ why as far as getting away from the pain via other pain……He has grown to a place, like you, where he no longer does this. THANK GOD!!
It is a sign of dealing in a healthy manner with your emotions….processing, learning and educating yourself about ‘what’ your dealing with.

I wish I could take it all away…..from you….my kids…..and any child who is going through this life with a parental sociopath.
I can’t.
All I can do, is keep a line of communication open, teach good coping skills, encourage heathy communications and model what I would like my children to be and see……and be there to comfort them, educate them, and raise their awareness to the toxicicity in the world.
The whole world is not bad……but the bad in the world seems louder than the good.

TAKE GOOD CARE…..
XXOO
EB

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]]> By: honey http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-81180 honey Tue, 06 Jul 2010 18:53:24 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/#comment-81180 my goodness... I had to get a new account because out of nowhere I thought i'd check back on here and I didn't remember my password, i totally and completely didn't expect those kinds of beautiful, kind comments... thank you so much.. they made me cry, in a really nice way! thank you, all of you, so much xxxxxx my goodness… I had to get a new account because out of nowhere I thought i’d check back on here and I didn’t remember my password, i totally and completely didn’t expect those kinds of beautiful, kind comments… thank you so much.. they made me cry, in a really nice way! thank you, all of you, so much xxxxxx

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]]> By: Rosa http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-76844 Rosa Sun, 23 May 2010 02:56:00 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/#comment-76844 Honey: You are a beautiful young girl with your whole life ahead of you. It breaks my heart that you would even consider hurting yourself. You have got resilience and a great fighting spirit in you, Honey. Use it for good, and your life will only get better. It's YOUR turn to be Happy..... Honey:

You are a beautiful young girl with your whole life ahead of you.

It breaks my heart that you would even consider hurting yourself.

You have got resilience and a great fighting spirit in you, Honey.

Use it for good, and your life will only get better.

It’s YOUR turn to be Happy…..

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]]> By: Buttons http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-76839 Buttons Sun, 23 May 2010 01:56:51 +0000 http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2006/12/01/child-victims-of-sociopathic-parents/#comment-76839 Honey...{{Gentle Hugs}} What a courageous young woman you are. To be young and experience what you did is one of the things that upsets me most about spathy - harming children. As an adult, I had a choice to get out, and you didn't, dear one. I think that you understand that what you experienced was something that you didn't deserve - it seems that you do in your post, and that is a powerful bit of information for you to always keep close. You didn't do anything to deserve it. Spaths do things to other people because they can, and not because anyone asks for it or does something to deserve it. You're not alone and you DO have the strength to heal, just as OxD pointed out. You will be one of those amazing women, Honey. You will be someone of substance because of who you evolve into on your healing path. Brightest blessings upon you, Honey. Honey…{{Gentle Hugs}} What a courageous young woman you are. To be young and experience what you did is one of the things that upsets me most about spathy – harming children.

As an adult, I had a choice to get out, and you didn’t, dear one. I think that you understand that what you experienced was something that you didn’t deserve – it seems that you do in your post, and that is a powerful bit of information for you to always keep close. You didn’t do anything to deserve it. Spaths do things to other people because they can, and not because anyone asks for it or does something to deserve it.

You’re not alone and you DO have the strength to heal, just as OxD pointed out. You will be one of those amazing women, Honey. You will be someone of substance because of who you evolve into on your healing path.

Brightest blessings upon you, Honey.

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