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Man saves himself, lets his children burn

It was supposed to be a murder-suicide, except the perp didn’t go through with the suicide. He’s received two life sentences for murder.

Father pleads guilty to killing his children in SUV blaze, on LATimes.com.

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  1. Truthspeak says:

    Skylar, I get what you’re expressing, and I agree that I never want to be “like them.” I don’t want to engage in their game-playing or vengeance, either. But, some crimes are so heinous that the perpetrators really don’t have any useful purpose in society and should simply be removed. And, I want to clarify that I sort of felt this way throughout my lifetime, but the more that I learn about predators and the “disordered,” the more that I believe that our huge population and cultural tolerances have amplified the degree of crimes that these people commit.

    OxD, even though I understand your explanation of the physiology, the whole scenario (especially of your husband’s death) causes such a painful horror for me that it’s almost too much to comprehend. Before their nerves were singed off, those children must have experienced a level of fear and terror that’s indescribable – no words are adequate. And, for someone to deliberately cause that kind of terror and death of innocent children justifies the same type of dispatching, as far as I’m concerned.

    Brightest blessings



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  2. Ox Drover says:

    Truthy, yes, I cannot deny that those children were afraid and in pain, horrific pain emotionally and physically that we cannot even begin to fathom…but after having been involved with the prison system for 20+ years, I believe in the bottom of my heart that spending the rest of his life on “suicide watch” is worse for him than what he would suffer with a needle in the arm and just “going to sleep.”

    Let him live in humiliation and constant supervision on “suicide watch”, the lights on 24/7, 23 hours a day in a concrete box without any windows, eating shiat for food, exercise in a chain link dog run between two buildings where he still can’t see the sky…the guards are in most instances I think as bad or worse than most of the inmates, so I’ve changed my mind about the death penalty…there are some things worse than death I think, and our prison system is one of them—ohh, and Texas has released over 3 dozen men off death row that were INNOCENT, proven so by DNA, so just the thought of executing even ONE innocent man or woman makes my skin crawl, so While I used to be one who would pull the trap for them to hang, unless someone is caught in the act I am totally against the death penalty now…of course this guy WAS caught in the act, but you know I still think that life the way he will live it is pretty darned bad…and then at the end of that, he must face the most Just Judge of them all, and personally, I think the judge is gonna be MAD.



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  3. Eralyn says:

    OxD,

    I was thinking about your husband when I read this article on here. I didn’t realize about your son. I am sorry he went through such pain. I hope the father who got burned in the fire and jumped out suffered GREATLY with pain. I hope it was just enough to NOT burn his nerve ending.

    Yes I know they have sentenced innocent people and it bothers me alot. I cannot imagine being caged with people who actually are heinous criminals to live out the rest of your days and what your mind must go through being innocent and unlike these animals. What a horrible life. There are enough of the crazies who they KNOW are guilty to make a good frontline army though!:O)

    Sheriff (ham) Joe Arpaio makes the prisoners watch rated G movies Disney channel, wear pink underwear and donated food. He also has tent city which gets to a smooth 120 degrees in the shade! This is for the petty criminal but like he says, if they don’t like it, they don’t have to come back. I agree with this but I have some good ol” boy trouble with the thinking here. When people picket his tents as cruelty he says “our troops are wearing lbs of gear in temperatures greater than this and they aren’t complaining”. So true!



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  4. Ox Drover says:

    Eralyn, I agree with Sheriff Joe…in Arkansas they make them chop cotton in the delta which is 99% humidity and 110 degree heat, with “line riders” on horses with shot guns and blood hounds…Texas also makes some of their inmates work in the fields. Patrick got sent out to the fields once for punishment and they wouldn’t let him have a hat and he sun burned horribly….he is VERY light skinned and bald headed so he had blisters full of water hanging all over his head. At the time I was horrified. Now I would ride the mule and carry the shot gun while he hoed cotton for 16 hours a day. My frame of reference has changed. LOL

    The problem with inmates is that prison does not “rehabilitate” any of them, it is just a PhD program for worse crimes and only 40% don’t commit another crime and get rearrested before their parole is out. So it is a swinging door situation. With the HIGH LEVEL of Ps (25% are over 30 on PCL-R and the entire group AVERAGES 22 on PCL-R which is VERY high in the psychopathic traits) so we know WHY rehab doesn’t work for any except a VERY few. No matter what we do to these men and women they are going to come back to prison or jail.

    Crime rates in the US have gone DOWN though with the INCREASE in numbers of inmates. So keeping them locked up does decrease crime on the outside. The Psychopaths commit about 70-80% of all violent crime, so those relatively FEW inmates being locked up has an impact on the crime rates.

    Unfortunately, though, too many (almost all) do get back out at some point in time. If they would just rate them and keep the ones that are high in P traits for a LONG TIME then properly supervise the ones who are not so high in P traits maybe the world would be a safer place. People like Patrick though need to DO their LIFE sentence.



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  5. Eralyn says:

    What I am seeing is scary. My spath ex was taught some self control and legal ways to commit crimes with large financial gain which has kept him out of prison. Thus wreaking havoc on innocent people legally to some degree. He sells Air Conditioning Service Contracts and hires and trains newcomers. They go to our large retirement communities and use scare tactics with great easy finance for multi thousand dollar service contracts which gets them a couple check ups on their unit per year and I am told the scam is they break crap that isn’t in the contract and it doesn’t show up until a time where they won’t be there (as if) and there’s the money. I saw one review where a guy from his company was at an elderly womans apartment hard selling her a service/maintenance contract on the apartments unit! The apartments maintenance man saw the A/C truck outside and knocked on the older ladies door to ask what was going on with her air and the guy literally ran out and jumped in his truck and drove away. That was in Texas where they lost their BBB accredidation and were being looked at federally for sales practices. Then in my state there was review from an employee who said they should be shut down as they illegally call people on the do not call list and it’s funny to them. Salesmen are usually excons or tweakers who work there. If an outside saleman gets reprimanded he gets sent to the call center as punishment and laughs about breaking stuff on a/c units so they make more money. I called my states BBB and pointed them to the Texas info and reveiws! My ex quadrupled his pay at this company which gave him the means to destroy our lives in court.

    I have seen where a class 3 sex offender upon his release from prison become the director of a non-profit for children who have parents in prison collecting $75k per year in federal grant money for 3 years when he had to close as he didn’t file the tax forms. My friend found his address (home no office) in a different name collecting federal grant money again! I currently know of a thief who is getting the top training in prison on computers. Guess what she’ll probably do when she gets out.

    When they appear to be working, they stay out longer. Cause more trouble and I hope get caught.

    My ex would look like the perfect catch. He messes with the spelling of his last name which sometimes messes with the background checking but he rides a completely custom harley (owner of the harley custom shop filed order of protection against him), drives a BMW, bought a house (got discounts from excon funds and credit and driving record are clean when he got out of prison!!!). Claims he was a professional firefighter for the forestry service for 8 years LOL, looks really good for his age and life he’s lived. Oh and sober with the ability to quote scripture in his favor of course and is a very dangerous man.



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