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He murders his wife, lies about medals and still gets a military burial

Raymond Sawyer of Colorado died in prison last month for the murder of his wife. He claimed to have won the Navy Cross, but lied. He’s being buried at Fort Logan National Cemetary, and veterans are outraged.

Read Murderer accused of faking war medal still getting military burial on 9news.com.

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  1. OxDrover says:

    Dear Hurtnomore,

    Silver gave you some great advice. It may not turn out like you hope with your mom, but still you will have tried.

    Keep in mind too, that your mother hasn’t seen you in a while and when our kids group up, especially if it is “suddely”–not really suddenly, but her perception of suddenly because she hasn’t seen you in a while—it is kind of a shock to a parent.

    Also keep in mind any cultural differences in an American culture and where you are.

    Understanding who you are, becoming separate from your parents, etc. is the JOB of a teenager. Letting that child become an adult and go out iinto the worl.d self sufficently is the JOB of a parent at this stage. It is a difficult process for even healthy well adjusted teenagers and also for even the best most well adjusted parent. Its a scary time for both. If there is a disordered or dysfunctional person in the mix it makes it even more scary. The status quo is “safe” but change is scary, and when people are scared or anxious they RE-act instead of respond. Hang on, you are on your way! (((Hugs))))



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  2. hurtnomore010 says:

    Silvermoon- Its almost like she expects her kids to be the same throughout their life. I mean whenever somebody says oh, your daughter is quite the sociable one. She sort of denies it and says no, she’s not like that. They always say your family knows you best. But that’s not the case with me. My mom could choose to get to know me better since its been a bout several years we actually really developing a relationship. She can sit back and see but its like me behaving differently is out of the question. Especially when we took the personality test at school. It turns out that I’m extroverted and my younger sister is more introvert. She dismissed it even though we took it honestly. She said we switched the results. We didn’t. It had my name on it ands my sister’s name on hers. When I told her reading wasn’t what I like to do that its just a past time. She kept asking me if I wanted to read. Its like what I said it just thrown out the window. No, you like to read cause I like to read.



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  3. silvermoon says:

    HNM,

    I hear you and I know its tough. Focus on who loves you and who you trust.

    Tred gently on the earth where you can.

    My favorite author, speaking of reading, is Jane Austen. In Sense and Sensibility she describes the young woman with a wild heart and it is a story worth reading. It gives much insights to young ladies.

    My advice? Be as good to yourself as to the people who love you. They don’t always get it. In fact, even I can be pretty obtuse. But love, over time, prevails.

    Being a teenager has lots of tough spots that are as hard for others to understand as they are for you. What always works is having the dignity and perseverance to rise above the trouble and make the clear and conscious decisions about living your life.

    You have great strength and wisdom in that. Don’t let go of it. And, don’t forget to breathe deeply.

    My best and heart to you,



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  4. OxDrover says:

    Well, GOOD FOR THEM!!!! I’m glad to hear that!

    “Daughter still believes he received the Navy Cross” –I can believe that too.

    Funerals aren’t for the dead, but for the living, and I can imagine that this woman feels totally distraught that her father is what he is, so denial is her way of coping with these feelings.

    I ordered a book yesterday written by a woman whose father was the “Happy face killer” serial killer about the shame and horror she suffered at being the daughter of a serial killer, Melissa Moore. I imagine this guy’s daughter may be in a similar emotional situation of being the daughter of a fake and a killer. I don’t agree with how she’s handling it, or with him being buried with an “honor guard” but I do feel for her grief at both what he was and at his death. Sounds like the daughter is suffering.



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  5. bulletproof says:

    This case is so horrific do not go here unwarned…it is extremely disturbing… but what is really adding more upset is how the parents of these three teenagers are standing up for them and defending them….HOW could parents…in the face of infinite evidence… stand behind their psychopathic children? is is denial in the extreme or is it love? and surely that is not a loving thing to do …actually defend and deny evil to save your illusion of good, to save some happy family lie? I am baffled by it..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepropetrovsk_maniacs



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