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When dealing with a sociopath, you must save yourself

Yesterday was a tough day at Lovefraud.

First thing in the morning, I got a call from a woman I’d spoken to before. She was hysterical.

From what she’d told me previously, it sounded like she was dealing with three sociopaths—her husband, her oldest son, and a guy she had an affair with. Initially, her husband had condoned the affair. Then he left her. Then he returned. Then he smeared her with her family and friends. The oldest son was violent.

“You have to get out,” I advised.

“I don’t have any money,” she whined. “My husband hid the checkbook.”

“Is your name on the account?” I asked.

“Yes.”

“Then go to the bank, withdraw money and leave.”

Then she started telling me that she begged her husband to make her son stop disrespecting her.

“Your husband is not going to do that,” I said. “He’s a sociopath. You have to get out.”

Then she told me that she and her husband had an appointment with her counselor on Sunday.

“What are you doing that for?” I asked. “It’s just another opportunity for him to manipulate you. Don’t do it.”

“I’ll kill myself”

The woman did not heed my advice. She did not leave. She went to the counseling appointment with her husband. My guess is that the counselor has been co-opted by the husband, as often happens when a sociopath calmly expresses concerns about his or her partner’s “problems.”

So the woman did not sleep at all Sunday night. First thing Monday morning, she’s on the phone with me. Hysterical.

“You have to get out,” I repeated.

“Why should I have to leave when he’s the one abusing me?” she asked.

Then she started begging me for help. She wanted her situation investigated. She wanted justice.

I’m not an investigator. I’m not a lawyer. I’m not a therapist. I’m on the other side of the country. All I could offer were suggestions. Which I’d already done.

So then she started talking about killing herself. Or arranging for someone else to kill her. Repeatedly.

Luckily, call waiting clicked—someone else was on the phone for her. After hanging up, I sought advice from some colleagues. They advised me not to take any chances.

So I called the woman’s counselor—she’d given me the phone number—and left a message that she was suicidal. Then I called the authorities.

An hour later the woman called back. She’d heard from her counselor that I said she was suicidal. She’d heard that law enforcement was coming.

“I’m not suicidal,” she screamed at me.

“You told me you were going to kill yourself,” I replied.

“I’m not suicidal,” she repeated. Then she hung up.

A few hours later, after the shock subsided, I vomited.

The problem was, I knew this incident played right into the hands of the husband, who was claiming that the woman was bi-polar.

I could imagine the scene. She’d get carted off to the hospital, screaming in protest, while he calmly explained to the doctors about her “problems.”

The record would show her receiving psychiatric care for her suicidal threats—another step toward her destruction.

Get out now

I don’t know if everything this woman told me was true. I do know that what she told me was possible.

Some sociopaths are so cunning, so manipulative and so vicious, that it’s possible the husband was orchestrating a grand scheme for this woman to take her own life. Dr. Leedom calls it “murder by suicide.”

But you can’t fight a sociopath by allowing yourself to slip into hysteria.

You can’t save yourself by demanding that somebody “do something” about another person’s abuse or injustice.

If you’re in an abusive situation, you must get out as soon as you become cognizant of it. The longer you stay, the weaker you’ll become, until you end up without the internal resources to cope at all.

If you’re reading this blog, and you’re in an abusive relationship, get out. Now.

In the end, you must save yourself. Other people can only offer suggestions.

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22 Comments on "When dealing with a sociopath, you must save yourself"

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  1. ErinBrock says:

    Not interesting in the least that I am ‘aware’ of this guy…..I MAKE IT MY BUSINESS! :)
    Where he is….the bus. spath is……and when the primary con does a ‘dupe’……so does my bus. spath…..and at some point there’s gonna be some money for me to SWOOP in on to collect my judgement!
    No Oxy….no cowinkidinks.

    BUT…..knowing they exhibit spath behaviors…..and watching from ‘afar’……and seeing the protoge’ behaviors in my bus. spath……I think it was ironic that this article was written…..even though it was in regards to investing…..because I think the same preface applies to those of us at LF in familial relationships etc…..

    Has anyone read this book? I bet it’s got some interesting info that we could use in everyday spath life!
    Get on it Oxy.

  2. Ox Drover says:

    EB, I have over 8 ft of shelf space now filled with books I have bought that I have not yet read! I am on a NO BUYING MORE BOOKS UNTIL I GET WHAT I OWN READ kick. It is really difficult to do, as I am a “book-a-holic” and it is very difficult for me not to buy books when I see one I am interested in…so I have to restrain myself for now.

    Right now I am reading two at a time, one a biography of Hitler that is quite interesting really when you look at it from a psychopathic stand point. The other one is a story about a man in Africa an Ibo, and his tribal life and how he thinks and his relationships. Very interesting from a psychological point of view. The guy is not a psychopath but he participates in the death of a child he which is sacrificed to the village honor, and other things that he does that are cruel and against what he wants to do, because of how he was raised and taught that a “man” behaves. I find many kinds of books interesting and helpful in many ways…even if only for entertainment as a story or distraction. But winter is coming on soon and I’ll have more time to read so maybe I can get caught up by spring with the pile of unread books. I am cleaning out my library and giving away some books, or throwing them into a box to donate somewhere. I can’t keep on trying to be the OxDrover’s “Library of Congress” and have a copy of every book in the country ever published! LOL

  3. moveingon says:

    Beautifulcallous, what a terrible time for you, husband and children. Aloahtraveler is quite correct, its what they do; you can’t change them. Children know, my 2 do; my daughter says she prefers to think of ‘it’ as dead; she has had enough and does NC for protection of herself.

    EB most spaths are financial fraudster as well, goes with the terrority as I have recently found out; my latest tale.

    The spath’s mother has defrauded everyone in her late husband’s will, all 4 grandchildren, me and ex sister in law. He has been dead 13 years, she strangely ‘forgot’ to mention his will to anyone! I found out that the will existed because her son the spath lied …beautiful! So I waited, and waited, got all the evidence and then (timing is crucial); the day before her 82nd birthday the other 2 grand children and daughter-in-law all received evidence of her fraud as did her solicitor. She is a thieving fraudster, like they all are; apples don’t fall far from the tree. Apparently she was ‘upset’…gosh I was devastated to have ‘spoilt’ her birthday; any luck it will be her last! Good to have confirmation though.

    Yesterday, I received a letter from her solicitor ‘he is waiting instruction’, she has 6 days left and counting, probate fraud is a criminal offence …and the spath mother also now knows the spath son dropped her right in it ….greed and stupidity …I’m sure they will kiss and make up ..or not ..Christmas is coming, her secret santa will be the police! Ho, Ho, Ho!

  4. Ox Drover says:

    Dear Moving on, it is probably not likely that they will put an 82 year old FRAUDSTER in prison….sorry she got away with it for 13 years though! Maybe at least you will get some SATISFACTION if not money though. Amazing what they will do though to get their ways! Maybe they will stab each other in the back!

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